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CyberHawk 
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 Posted: 04 Jul 2013 at 3:30pm |
 mmehride wrote:
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beaverr ... what's with the "no oath in Montreal until October" thing?You're freaking me out man... Who told you that? Based on what?? |
I bet he was just kidding :) |
Well, since he's not reacting then I guess it's not true. Feel better now... 
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Landed 2007 Montreal
Applied 08/2011
In process 10/2012
Test's written 02/2013
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Frenchapplicant
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Posted: 04 Jul 2013 at 6:56pm |
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Hi there,
We just received letter for exam July 10 if you want to update our timeline. Montreal was quite efficient as my file was transferred to Montreal office only last June 11. So less than a month ago.
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keewan
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Posted: 04 Jul 2013 at 9:46pm |
Good evening everyone, No updates for any pre test RQ in Montreal? It's been 8 months now since i sent it back, 26 months since i applied, no news yet...last time i called CIC was back in april. Thank you
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Roni
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Posted: 04 Jul 2013 at 11:45pm |
beaverr wrote:
Applied 2007, in process 2008 test 2009 since then was a deadly silence without RQ or anything, he called many times cic and always saying for him you pass written test but you will have hearing in a 6 months, till now lately after 4years he got invitation with judge next month and now he should collect all relevant proofs |
This is scary after 4 years unbelievable :(((((
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08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133
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Roni
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Posted: 05 Jul 2013 at 12:04am |
dpenabill wrote:
I have previously made references to, and linked, a case which illustrates how long it can take for some individuals: the Werfalli case against the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.
An application made in 2007 is, obviously, one made a long time ago: Six years, give or take some (depending on whether application was made in early or late 2007).
The Werfalli case is one that, at minimum, took eight years just to the point in time when he was scheduled for an interview by the Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA); since the case that was decided by the Federal Court was an appeal of a removal order (finding of inadmissibility), it is not clear whether the citizenship application remained pending. Probably not, as in the citizenship application probably was terminated sometime after the July 2009 interview with CBSA (eight years after applying for citizenship), probably terminated because once the removal order was issued, whether wrongfully or rightfully, the individual is prohibited. So there probably was a hearing and the citizenship application denied, based on the prohibition (other Federal Court decisions make it clear that even if the individual ultimately prevails in an appeal of a removal order, the individual is nonetheless prohibited from being granted citizenship once the removal order is issued, even if not enforceable -- if the appeal is successful, the applicant can re-apply for citizenship).
I make reference to that case again because, as I said, it illustrates that, indeed, sometimes, for some applicants, the timeline can indeed be many, many years.
Which brings the discussion to the vague allusions above to an applicant who applied in 2007 and is just now scheduled for a hearing.
Yes, it is indeed possible there is such an applicant, one who applied in 2007 and who has waited four years with nothing happening since taking the test in 2009, and who has just now been scheduled for a hearing with a Citizenship Judge.
While this is possibly a real case, it has virtually NOTHING to do with what any legitimate applicant can anticipate happening in their case. Sure, the possibility extends to others. It is, after all, possible that even though there is no rain in today's forecast, no thundershowers forecast here for this afternoon, that nonetheless a thunder storm could happen and I get hit by lightning while sitting at my computer this afternoon. While possible, there is virtually no likelihood of this happening.
In other words, even if this is a true account of a pending case, it is largely, if not entirely IRRELEVANT, of no significance for anyone else who is LEGITIMATELY applying for citizenship.
That said, the source here is not credible. My opinion, yes. But I highly doubt this is true story.
And, again, even if true it is not really of any interest, of any significance, for anyone else here.
Because I doubt the credibility of the source, and because I do not believe it is relevant even if true, I hesitate to offer probable explanations for how and why such an individual has experienced such a long delay (six years) before being scheduled for a hearing. That said, it is fairly easy to identify the most likely reasons:
-- background security issues (which is what was involved in the Werfalli case)
-- prohibition issues (in addition to those based on background security concerns, there are other prohibition and admissibility issues)
-- suspected fraud (residency fraud or other misrepresentations to CBSA or CIC)
Applicants with no reason to think that any of these concerns apply to them, have no reason at all to think that their case may sit anywhere near so long without moving forward.
OK, sure, CIC gets it wrong sometimes. So, maybe one-person-in-twenty-thousand is knocked off track this way even though there really is nothing at all to raise any of these concerns. Anyone who worries about being one of those one-in-twenty-thousand is too paranoid to cross the street even with a police escort.
But, sure, some applicants participating here probably do have one or more of these concerns. That is, sure, some participants here have real issues. (While percentage-wise this is a small group, at any given time there are probably hundreds if not thousands of applicants who fall into this group.) And sure, these applicants are likely to encounter delays, longer than usual delays. How long depends on the particular case. As I have oft said: in addition to the concerns I just highlighted above, that is, background security issues, prohibition issues, suspected fraud issues, there are indications that CIC will stall some (not all) cases if CIC perceives the applicant is living abroad or otherwise has continuing ties abroad outweighing their Canadian ties.
Anyone who falls into any of the latter categories (issues regarding background security, potential prohibition, admissibility, fraud, or life rooted outside Canada) can anticipate a much, much longer timeline, far more scrutiny, and yes, indeed, the risk of a denial. For cause. Anyone who is in this group but who nonetheless is confident they should not be denied citizenship should hire competent legal counsel. A forum like this is not the place to seek help in this situation.
The rest of us can relax. It may take awhile, but not four let alone six years, and there is virtually no reason to doubt the outcome: the day we raise our hand and proudly swear allegiance to the Queen will come.
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Thai you very much it's perfect , I was really scary when red Beaverr post but this one made me happy, thanks again
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08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133
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beaverr
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Posted: 05 Jul 2013 at 4:46am |
Hi Roni, i'm sorry if I worried you, dpenabill you are right 100% I'M ONE OF YOUR FANS HERE ;) but this case really happened and the guy is really genuine applicant , anyway he is exaggerating I don't think he will get a removal order as he has with him all receipt and taxes and bank statement already and he worked for all the relevant year so I think the judge will approve his citizenship. anyway i'll keep you posted on what will happen. Cyberhawk sure I was just kidding about closing till October, I think in summer there is oath but less than before , anyway I wish good luck to all and lets wait to see what will happen
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beaverr
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Posted: 05 Jul 2013 at 9:50am |
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Cyberhwawk have you tried calling them? I have same timeline as you and it is for the 3rd time that agent confirmed that no decision was made yet on my file. how about you?
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Posted: 05 Jul 2013 at 11:44am |
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dpenabill is too good. Whenever the spirits are down as result of some long outstanding cases, he jumps in and pull the socks up. Great Job, My friend.
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ravi
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beaverr
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Posted: 05 Jul 2013 at 12:25pm |
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| Description: |
300 new Canadians will receive their citizenship.
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Centre Hellénique
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| Time: |
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| Description: |
300 new Canadians will receive their citizenship.
Order of Canada Recipient Barbara Seal will preside. |
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| Location: |
Montréal, Quebec
Centre Hellénique
5757 Wilderton, Outremont |
| Date: |
2013-07-24 |
| Time: |
1:00 PM |
| Description: |
300 new Canadians will receive their citizenship.
Order of Canada Recipient Barbara Seal will preside. |
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Yes |
| Telephone: |
(888)242-2100 |
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beaverr
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Posted: 05 Jul 2013 at 12:26pm |
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good luck everyone
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