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Topic: New Delhi Applications...
Posted By: sunilpatel100
Subject: New Delhi Applications...
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 1:18am
hey i cannot find the old forum so i am making new one here .. all people pls join here.
i dont know if theere is problem with previous forum or it it problem with my computer...
 
 



Replies:
Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 1:24am
I know sunil... it disappeared. I'm not sure why.


Posted By: pmm
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 1:32am
Hi

Originally posted by kandareen kandareen wrote:

I know sunil... it disappeared. I'm not sure why.


Because have you noted that no one is trying to sell you shoes? That most of the spam posts are gone, and if you report spam it is removed.
Very refreshing.

PMM

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PMM


Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 2:05am
Hey pmm... what's your time line please?


Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 3:47am
Originally posted by pmm pmm wrote:

Hi

Originally posted by kandareen kandareen wrote:

I know sunil... it disappeared. I'm not sure why.


Because have you noted that no one is trying to sell you shoes? That most of the spam posts are gone, and if you report spam it is removed.
Very refreshing.

PMM


Hi - Pmm,
Not a good  idea to remove the entire thread just for few spams, I'd say its frustrating rather than "refreshing"

AGM





Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 3:49am
Hello again,
Wow, we can't even read old forums info.

Here is the chart to update your timelines please:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rc4Dx03ztmgGoVOyPYI-Gkw&output=html




Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 4:00am
Hi, 
I feel bad the other site is gone; we had some great information on it.  Who would do such a thing?

Here is a link to an older forum that was locked but can still access good information.  I hesitated giving it out incase it goes down too. 

http://www.immigration.ca/discussion2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=50459&whichpage=65


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 4:03am
Here is the link to send Case Enquiry to ND

https://dmp-portal.cic.gc.ca/cicemail/intro-eng.aspx?mission=new%20delhi - https://dmp-portal.cic.gc.ca/cicemail/intro-eng.aspx?mission=new%20delhi




Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 7:16am
Originally posted by pmm pmm wrote:

Hi

Originally posted by kandareen kandareen wrote:

I know sunil... it disappeared. I'm not sure why.


Because have you noted that no one is trying to sell you shoes? That most of the spam posts are gone, and if you report spam it is removed.
Very refreshing.

PMM
i just wrote that this is not for shoe sale i did not report any spam to be removed. i just said not to post it again pls...


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 7:17am
what's your timeline PMM and AGM


Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 7:57am
Originally posted by sunilpatel100 sunilpatel100 wrote:

what's your timeline PMM and AGM

sunilpatel100,

AFAIK pmm is a Forum moderator Smile

You can refer my timeline under the thread Timeline after appeal allowed

AGM


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 8:24pm
Good on Ya Sunil ..starting the forum again..
It sucks when all our previous posts get locked..


Posted By: vnsk80
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:24pm
we lost the old thread? crap!! lets keep this thread very active (I mean keep posting) so that this would list at the top and more ND applicants can join.

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New Delhi started processing on Nov 6.


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:37pm
is anybody in here from manitoba?
 
i want to sponser my cousin in india in manitoba provinicial nominees program - family support steam?
 
i just wanted to get info?
 


Posted By: shampy2009
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:49pm
Sure Sunil

Please login to this website and Get the information about MPNP program

http://www2.immigratemanitoba.com/browse/howtoimmigrate/pnp

Hey Guys

Please keep up to date as the entire thread is gone.

My timeline once again : Delhi started process on 4th September 2009. Waiting for PPR..Anyone else out there???


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:57pm
Originally posted by shampy2009 shampy2009 wrote:

Sure Sunil

Please login to this website and Get the information about MPNP program

http://www2.immigratemanitoba.com/browse/howtoimmigrate/pnp

Hey Guys

Please keep up to date as the entire thread is gone.

My timeline once again : Delhi started process on 4th September 2009. Waiting for PPR..Anyone else out there???
hi
shampy
 
thanks
but i wann know if anybody has done it
 


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 11:58pm

shampy

where about are you in canada? i just wanted to know in manitoba pnp how long it take... i read the forum but they dont say that on that website.


Posted By: shampy2009
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 12:14am
I came in here under PNP program! Took almost 9 months to get done the entire process!These days it almost taking i guess from 15 to 24 months


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 12:25am
so who sponsered you? i mean close relative or friend... r u still in manitoba?


Posted By: shampy2009
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 12:58am
yep! my relative and also i am in Manitoba.. Just let you know if you are sponsering one of your relative (real blood relationship) need one sponsership otherwise nedd 2.

I will also send you an email ! just wait for my email!!! dont want to do discuss here as its for Spousal sponsership thread.

Add me in use my email address [email protected] will talk on yahoo chat


Posted By: Sept 20
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 9:53am
Hey guys,
 
we had so much info on the previous forum....
 
my timeline is: ND started processing 18 Sept....waiting for ppr


Posted By: indica
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 12:00pm
Hi Everyone,
 
Here is the timeline for most of us which I have been maintaining. Hope this helps us.
 
People approved or PPR received ND started processing the case Passport request letter received  Passport Received by Visa Office  ECAS STATUS CHANGE - PR Application Status from "In Process" to "Decision Made"  Passport returned with Visa
Canadian Guy 6-Aug-2009 5-Dec-2009   28-Dec-2009  
broodfaun 21-Aug-2009 9-Dec-2009 10-Dec-2009    
rajral 24-Aug-2009 22-Oct-2009 9-Nov-2009 7-Dec-2009 7-Dec-2009
Broken Arrow 1-Sep-2009 2-Dec-2009 4-Dec-2009    
sunilpatel100 1-Sep-2009 24-Dec-2009      
Oct-09 4-Sep-2009 7-Dec-2009 9-Dec-2009 21-Dec-2009 26-Dec-2009
Sep-09 22-Sep-2009 2-Dec-2009 4-Dec-2009 14-Dec-2009 18-Dec-2009
crp09 30-Sep-2009 20-Nov-2009 24-Nov-2009 5-Dec-2009 5-Dec-2009
sush_priya 30-Sep-2009 22-Oct-2009 10-Nov-2009 22-Dec-2009  
mp1084 5-Oct-2009 30-Oct-2009 3-Nov-2009 10-Dec-2009 10-Dec-2009
Jul-09 6-Oct-2009 8-Dec-2009 9-Dec-2009    
OCT_2009 17-Nov-2009 21-Nov-2009 24-Nov-2009    
patelronakcool 25-Nov-2009 1-Dec-2009 3-Dec-2009    
           
           
           
Waiting to be approved
Kandareen 12-Aug-2009        
Nlohchab 31-Aug-2009        
preeks 1-Sep-2009        
Scorpio 9791 3-Sep-2009        
Shampy2009 4-Sep-2009        
20-Sep 20-Sep-2009        
Indica 6-Oct-2009        
vnsk80 6-Nov-2009        
seski 18-Nov-2009        
Shona 25-Nov-2009        
ravi75 8-Dec-2009        
Yogesh 9-Dec-2009        


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ND started processing Oct 6th 2009. PPR received on Feb 9th 2010. Visa received on Feb 23rd 2010. Landed Ca on March 9th!


Posted By: ravi75
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 1:08pm
hello indica,
 
mine sponsorship approved on dec 8th and application sent to delhi.
 
rgds
ravi


Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 1:44pm
Hi Indica...

Thanks for redoing the time line chart. This is great. It shows how slow things have been for everyone. Let's hope next week things start hopping!!!


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 3:42pm

Great work Indica for bringing over the chart on to this forum..Hope we all start to get some news at the start of a new year..



Posted By: shampy2009
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 5:20pm
Thanks Indica

After discussing with SunilPatel , yesterday night i talk to my wife and also she sent case specific enquiry to delhi .. I hope within next week will get PPR reply via email or some another news! Let's see!

Will update you as soon as i get an email reply from them!


Posted By: shampy2009
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 5:24pm
Hello Guys
preeks 1-Sep-2009        
Scorpio 9791 3-Sep-2009        
Shampy2009 4-Sep-2009        
20-Sep 20-Sep-2009  

Any update on your status or did you sent case specific enquiry to delhi?? if one of you did any reply from them??? I guess we are the only one in September timeline in this forum who did not get PPR.. I hope all of us should have get within first or second week of January..




Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 6:19pm
Hi Shampy...

I sent a case specific email inquiry last week on Dec. 23rd since my hubby's cell # was out of order for a few days and we had to let immig. know of an alternate number just in case. At the same time we inquired about the file status. We haven't heard back anything yet, but didn't expect to since it's the holidays.


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 8:07pm
Hi Shampy, I sent an enquiry just a little over 2 weeks ago but haven't had any reply yet..


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2009 at 8:55pm
Originally posted by Scorpio 9791 Scorpio 9791 wrote:

Hi Shampy, I sent an enquiry just a little over 2 weeks ago but haven't had any reply yet..
hey scorpio
 
did you sent another enquire because the one tha you sent and i was waiting for your reply to come was more then 2 weeks right...


Posted By: Sept 20
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 9:55am
Hey Guys,
 
Even I am planning to send a case specific enquiry today. Do I have to send one or should my wife be sending one?
 
Hope everyone in Aug and Sept timeline get PPR next week.....


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 10:47am
Originally posted by Sept 20 Sept 20 wrote:

Hey Guys,
 
Even I am planning to send a case specific enquiry today. Do I have to send one or should my wife be sending one?
 
Hope everyone in Aug and Sept timeline get PPR next week.....
 
Hey Sept, Get your wife to send the enquiry unless you are authorized by your wife to act on her behalf..I sent an enquiry using my wife's id but they never responded..


Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 11:16am
You have to be the original applicant, stating your name, address, phone number, birthdate, case file number and any other specifics and to email from the applicant's email address registered with immigration. If you are a LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE of your spouse with the signed form indicating such, then you have to scan the signed form and attach it to your email to let them know you are your spouse's legal representative. If you and your spouse do not have this form signed, then forget emailing on their behalf. Immigration will not acknowledge you.


Posted By: corpus
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 11:42am

I have a question not related to timeline but i hope you guys don't mind and can help me with this.

I am planing to apply for my wife's PR. I am in US and have canadaian PR and will me moving there next month and apply for my wife's PR. She is with me and will be going on Visitor Visa for now. Since she was in US for more then 6 months so we will need to get a Police clearance from FBI for her and that can take from 2-3 months. My question is if i apply for her with only indian police clearance will they return the application as incomplete or will keep it ask for missing document. this way my file will get in line. They say to submit all the documents up front. HAs anyone any experience with this type of situation or can provide some info then it will be greatly appriciated.


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 11:47am
Originally posted by corpus corpus wrote:

I have a question not related to timeline but i hope you guys don't mind and can help me with this.

I am planing to apply for my wife's PR. I am in US and have canadaian PR and will me moving there next month and apply for my wife's PR. She is with me and will be going on Visitor Visa for now. Since she was in US for more then 6 months so we will need to get a Police clearance from FBI for her and that can take from 2-3 months. My question is if i apply for her with only indian police clearance will they return the application as incomplete or will keep it ask for missing document. this way my file will get in line. They say to submit all the documents up front. HAs anyone any experience with this type of situation or can provide some info then it will be greatly appriciated.
 
Hi Corpus,
 
You have to submit US police Clearance with the application or else they will return your application as incomplete..Your application will not go in the queue ... and providing police clearance for every country that an applicant has lived for 6 months or more is a requirement and has to be sub,itted with the application..
hope this answers your question..


Posted By: Sept 20
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 12:13pm
Thanks Kandeeran, Scorpio for your suggestion.
 
I guess I will send a case specific enquiry from their wesite with my wife's details....hope they respond....
 
hope they dont make us wait too long as we all have already waited for months....
 
 


Posted By: nlohchab
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 12:25pm
How come people getting different time-line.....Criteria? Any Clue !

Now things getting really getting on nervous here,

Folks; Any other method to inquire about the waiting period.

N`Angry

Applied: 9thJuly,2009
New-Delhi: Process starts on 31Aug'09


Posted By: indica
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 12:47pm
Can anyone tell me what is a case file number? Is it different from my husband's client ID?
 
If it is different, then where would I get the same from ?


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ND started processing Oct 6th 2009. PPR received on Feb 9th 2010. Visa received on Feb 23rd 2010. Landed Ca on March 9th!


Posted By: nlohchab
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 12:59pm
Good Q 2 know!


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 1:43pm
Originally posted by indica indica wrote:

Can anyone tell me what is a case file number? Is it different from my husband's client ID?
 
If it is different, then where would I get the same from ?

Hi everyone, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I just celebrated it with my husband on the phone again!  Anyway, this will all be over soon for all of us so keep your spirits up.

Indica,
case file number is what you get from Canada when you sponsor your spouse.  File number is what your spouse gets when they start sponsoring their permanent residence application to come to Canada.

If I log in with my case number, I see both his and my information.  If I log in with his immigration file number, I see only his status.  I hope this helps.




Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by indica indica wrote:

Can anyone tell me what is a case file number? Is it different from my husband's client ID?
 
If it is different, then where would I get the same from ?


Client ID Number

You will find this number on official documents issued to you from a Citizenship and Immigration Canada office, Case Processing Centre or visa office where you submitted your application. Your "Client ID Number" has four numbers, a dash (-), and four more numbers. (Example: 0000-0000).

Immigration File Number

You will find this number on any official document issued to you from the visa office where you submitted your application. Your "Immigration File Number" starts with the letter "B", and is followed by nine numbers. (Example: B000000000).


AGM




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Appeal Allowed - 02-18-09,
CHC ND Resumed Processing - 05-20-09,Medical Redo 08-12-09,Present status - Background Check.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 1:51pm
Originally posted by Sept 20 Sept 20 wrote:

Thanks Kandeeran, Scorpio for your suggestion.
 
I guess I will send a case specific enquiry from their wesite with my wife's details....hope they respond....
 
hope they dont make us wait too long as we all have already waited for months....
 
 

Hi Sep 20,
Scorpio is right; if you send an enquiry using your wife's details they will not respond back as they will see your IP is not coming from India; SHE HAS TO SEND IT.

My husband and I sent an enquiry in the middle of the night (India time) while we were online together and I helped him do it BUT it had to be sent from him NOT me.  He received a reply back next day from them which was unusual because it usually takes longer according to others on this forum.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 1:59pm
Originally posted by July09 July09 wrote:

Originally posted by indica indica wrote:

Can anyone tell me what is a case file number? Is it different from my husband's client ID?
 
If it is different, then where would I get the same from ?

Hi everyone, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I just celebrated it with my husband on the phone again!  Anyway, this will all be over soon for all of us so keep your spirits up.

Indica,
case file number is what you get from Canada when you sponsor your spouse.  File number is what your spouse gets when they start sponsoring their permanent residence application to come to Canada.

If I log in with my case number, I see both his and my information.  If I log in with his immigration file number, I see only his status.  I hope this helps.



Oooops,

Sorry Indica, I am not sure if I was answering your question; I was assuming you are talking about Client ID number given by Mississauga to person sponsoring spouse and Immigration File Number given by ND to process permanent residence to Canada.  Case File number I have not heard of.


Posted By: Sept 20
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 3:19pm
Thanks July09, will ask my wife to send it. I had no idea they track IP adresses...  Hoping they wont send me one more "pending initial review" reply....
 
Even I celebrated New Year with my wife on phone...hope all of us get something atleast next week...


Posted By: ravi75
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 4:38pm
yes. happy new year to all. hope we all get good news in next week.


Posted By: shampy2009
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 7:13pm
Nice to hear again from all of you guys! Hope this thread will not get deleted or removed!! Also my wife she called in today my noon time saying she was sleeping and had to turn on alarm so she can wish me Happy New Year!!!! I guess that was cool....

Well Guys Happy New Year and Have a glass of wine and cheers..Hopefully new year will bring good news for all of us!


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2009 at 9:28pm

Wishing all you guys a very happy and funfilled new year..and lets hope the new year brings in good news for all of us who have been waiting patiently..

Don't drink too hard !!!!!Beer


Posted By: indica
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2010 at 3:37am
Originally posted by July09 July09 wrote:

Originally posted by July09 July09 wrote:

Originally posted by indica indica wrote:

Can anyone tell me what is a case file number? Is it different from my husband's client ID?
 
If it is different, then where would I get the same from ?

Hi everyone, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I just celebrated it with my husband on the phone again!  Anyway, this will all be over soon for all of us so keep your spirits up.

Indica,
case file number is what you get from Canada when you sponsor your spouse.  File number is what your spouse gets when they start sponsoring their permanent residence application to come to Canada.

If I log in with my case number, I see both his and my information.  If I log in with his immigration file number, I see only his status.  I hope this helps.



Oooops,

Sorry Indica, I am not sure if I was answering your question; I was assuming you are talking about Client ID number given by Mississauga to person sponsoring spouse and Immigration File Number given by ND to process permanent residence to Canada.  Case File number I have not heard of.
 
Hi July09
 
This is what I was asking for. Members of this forum have mentioned the term "case file number" and so I wanted to clarify if "Client ID" and "case file number" were same. It is the same thing. Your answer does clarify my doubt. Thanx.


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ND started processing Oct 6th 2009. PPR received on Feb 9th 2010. Visa received on Feb 23rd 2010. Landed Ca on March 9th!


Posted By: indica
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2010 at 3:38am
Originally posted by AGM AGM wrote:

Originally posted by indica indica wrote:

Can anyone tell me what is a case file number? Is it different from my husband's client ID?
 
If it is different, then where would I get the same from ?


Client ID Number

You will find this number on official documents issued to you from a Citizenship and Immigration Canada office, Case Processing Centre or visa office where you submitted your application. Your "Client ID Number" has four numbers, a dash (-), and four more numbers. (Example: 0000-0000).

Immigration File Number

You will find this number on any official document issued to you from the visa office where you submitted your application. Your "Immigration File Number" starts with the letter "B", and is followed by nine numbers. (Example: B000000000).


AGM


 
Hi AGM
 
Thanx for the clarification.


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ND started processing Oct 6th 2009. PPR received on Feb 9th 2010. Visa received on Feb 23rd 2010. Landed Ca on March 9th!


Posted By: indica
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2010 at 3:42am

Hi July09 and Sunilpatel,

I wanted to know that if we send an email enquiry which number do we need to mention as case reference. Will it be okay if I mention the Client ID i.e. 0000-0000 ? This is the only number that I know.


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ND started processing Oct 6th 2009. PPR received on Feb 9th 2010. Visa received on Feb 23rd 2010. Landed Ca on March 9th!


Posted By: indica
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2010 at 3:46am

A very Happy New Year and Season's Greetings to all !

I pray that this year brings a lot of Good news for us!


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ND started processing Oct 6th 2009. PPR received on Feb 9th 2010. Visa received on Feb 23rd 2010. Landed Ca on March 9th!


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2010 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by indica indica wrote:

Hi July09 and Sunilpatel,

I wanted to know that if we send an email enquiry which number do we need to mention as case reference. Will it be okay if I mention the Client ID i.e. 0000-0000 ? This is the only number that I know.
 
hey indica
 
just put the client id number that you know but when they will reply with file number and name in the subject colum in the e-mail
 
so just put the client id number .. that will be perfect..
 
just reminder......make sure dont send from canada... have your spouse send the enquire from india. unless you are authorized.. which, none of us are i Guess. ... i know i am not .
 
happy new year


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2010 at 10:16pm
happy new year.......................


Posted By: nlohchab
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 3:01am
Got the passport Request today on 02Jan'10.
Couple of concern i.e. Need to send back only the passport or anything else with it.
//As i m here, in Canada, so just asking for the normal process,,in which they asked for the passport
do we need send them the passport or any other document also...plz do guide!
\And how much time we r looking here from here?

Thanks and Very happy new year frnds :-) 


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 3:42am
Originally posted by nlohchab nlohchab wrote:

Got the passport Request today on 02Jan'10.
Couple of concern i.e. Need to send back only the passport or anything else with it.
//As i m here, in Canada, so just asking for the normal process,,in which they asked for the passport
do we need send them the passport or any other document also...plz do guide!
\And how much time we r looking here from here?

Thanks and Very happy new year frnds :-) 
congrats
 
the long wait for ppr is over.. if i remember right nd started processing your file on aug 30, well my was sept 1, i got ppr on dec 24 but i still have not sent passport as the office was close for chrismas and new year i am sending it on jan 4, 2010 monday.
 
btw how did you got ppr..?? by e-mail or mail
 
 
you only have to send the ppr that you got with your original passport and old passports ( if any) but make sure you make photocopy of your ppr
 


Posted By: broodfaun
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 8:30am
Hi Everyone,

My wife received her passport today. Yay. Big smile

I hope everyone receives get visa soon. 

Here is my timeline:

Send Doc to Mississuaga  JULY 3th
Approved on AUG 05
ND START PROCESSING Aug 21
Additional Doc request OCT 20(dated oct 13)[asked additional relationship proof, money support, my short stay in INDIA etc)
PP Request DEC 9
Visa issued JAN 02, 2010

Total time seems just about 6 months...


I have a question if anyone knows the answer.  She didn't get any goods to follow forms with the visa.  IS she suppose to get forms like that or can she list stuff she is bringing on any blank page?


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 10:40am
Originally posted by broodfaun broodfaun wrote:

Hi Everyone,

My wife received her passport today. Yay. Big smile

I hope everyone receives get visa soon. 

Here is my timeline:

Send Doc to Mississuaga  JULY 3th
Approved on AUG 05
ND START PROCESSING Aug 21
Additional Doc request OCT 20(dated oct 13)[asked additional relationship proof, money support, my short stay in INDIA etc)
PP Request DEC 9
Visa issued JAN 02, 2010

Total time seems just about 6 months...


I have a question if anyone knows the answer.  She didn't get any goods to follow forms with the visa.  IS she suppose to get forms like that or can she list stuff she is bringing on any blank page?
 
congrats


Posted By: indica
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 11:53am
Hi Broodfaun and Nlohchab,
 
Congrats ! Long wait is finally over. I feel better when I see that work is progressing. Hope the rest of us here get some good news soon too.


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ND started processing Oct 6th 2009. PPR received on Feb 9th 2010. Visa received on Feb 23rd 2010. Landed Ca on March 9th!


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by nlohchab nlohchab wrote:

Got the passport Request today on 02Jan'10.
Couple of concern i.e. Need to send back only the passport or anything else with it.
//As i m here, in Canada, so just asking for the normal process,,in which they asked for the passport
do we need send them the passport or any other document also...plz do guide!
\And how much time we r looking here from here?

Thanks and Very happy new year frnds :-) 
 
Hi nlohchab,
Congrats..If they haven't asked for any other document then just send the passport..make sure if you have any expired passport send that as well and attach a copy of the passport request letter and a covering letter..
As far as timing is concerned it can be anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks..however it can take longer than that as well as we have seen in some cases..
Good Luck !!


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 12:01pm
Congrats Broodfaun..


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 1:37pm
Congratulations nlohchab and broodfaun that is great news!!!

I have a question for you both; did either of you receive your pictures back and if so when?

nlohchab, my husband sent his passport and they received it on Dec 9th BUT hopefully the holidays is the main reason for this delay.  Also, he worked outside India for years so they need to do background check.  

Does anyone on this forum know what more background check they do... we sent police clearance, letter from company when he left his job, work visa cancellation and background information for the position he had including his resume.

Anyways, I would really appreciate you letting me know if you guys got all your pictures back.

Congratulations again... it is good to see things moving.


Posted By: broodfaun
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:03pm
Hi July09,

We did receive the pictures along with some other documents.  They kept some of them like police cert, medicals receipt etc.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:11pm
Wow, I have good timing to check here,
Thanks broodfaun for answering me.  My husband got a call to send his passport but no follow up yet for him and no documents returned yet.

Thanks again


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:14pm
So have you been busy making arrangements for your wife to come here.

My husband has been packed for 3 weeks!  I can just imagine what shape his clothes are in now sitting all that time in the suitcase lol.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:15pm
We also sent our papers to Mississauga July 3rd 


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by broodfaun broodfaun wrote:

Hi Everyone,

My wife received her passport today. Yay. Big smile

I hope everyone receives get visa soon. 

Here is my timeline:

Send Doc to Mississuaga  JULY 3th
Approved on AUG 05
ND START PROCESSING Aug 21
Additional Doc request OCT 20(dated oct 13)[asked additional relationship proof, money support, my short stay in INDIA etc)
PP Request DEC 9
Visa issued JAN 02, 2010

Total time seems just about 6 months...


I have a question if anyone knows the answer.  She didn't get any goods to follow forms with the visa.  IS she suppose to get forms like that or can she list stuff she is bringing on any blank page?

Why don't you call 1 888 242‑2100 on Monday and ask them so you will know for sure about the form and at the same time ask them anything else you might need to know on this final step; I am sure they will be very happy to help you as it will be a refreshing call for them compared to the questions they normally get.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:43pm
Sorry, I have one more question... actually 2 (I just thought of another)

Did they send your documents back when they asked you to send more in Oct?

Have you been checking status on line to see if decision was made and if yes has it been updated?

Sorry, so many questions... the more info we share the more it helps the rest of us.


Posted By: nlohchab
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:56pm
Yes, they returned the Photographs and marriage card etc.
Online status is still the same, not updated yet. Still showing that processing starts on this.... date.



Posted By: nlohchab
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 7:58pm
thanks for the info. !


Posted By: broodfaun
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 8:10pm
Originally posted by July09 July09 wrote:

Sorry, I have one more question... actually 2 (I just thought of another)

Did they send your documents back when they asked you to send more in Oct?

Have you been checking status on line to see if decision was made and if yes has it been updated?

Sorry, so many questions... the more info we share the more it helps the rest of us.


I initially included only 20 pics with application.  They were not satisfied and asked more pics with guest attendance.  Thus I send about 100 pics when requested in oct.  Most of the doc were returned.  I think most of the stuff from october were returned as it contained emails communication transcript, sms, pictures, western union receipt, phone, reason why my stay was short etc.  Most our documents were returned. 

The status showed decision is made.

I was rather surprised they returned our passport with visa within 3 weeks (specially all the holidays we had).

I will probably go and pick her up in Feb.   She can use my extra allowance suitcase( 3 for her and 1 for me).LOL


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 9:20pm
Thank you both for sharing your information.

What I am still trying to understand is when exactly they returned your documents.   

Broodfaun, yours were sent back when...with the passport.  That is what I am hoping.  

nlohchab were yours sent back with the ppr request or separately.  

Thank you again!


Posted By: nlohchab
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 10:29pm
PPR request and photos, docs document returned together.


Posted By: sanjayk
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 11:23pm
Hello Every one i got my wife passport back on 31st dec. with visa
my time line was visa refused in Feb 2009, IAD filled in Feb 2009, documents requested By IAD in May sent in June , IAD hearing in Sept 2009 ND CHC start processing in Last week of Oct.2009 , again asked for new set of forms and family info, medical done again with police clearence , in nov.2009passport request in dec.visa issued on 24 dec. passport back indelhi on 31st dec.2009
just a up date and timeline hope this will give bit of idea how ND CHC doing good luck to everyone and best wishes for year2010
 


Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2010 at 11:28pm
Hi Sanjayk...

When did you get refused? After an interview? If so, when did they tell you (i.e. face to face or in a letter sent 2 months later?). At what point in the initial stage did you get an interview request (if you had one)?


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 12:04am
Originally posted by sanjayk sanjayk wrote:

Hello Every one i got my wife passport back on 31st dec. with visa
my time line was visa refused in Feb 2009, IAD filled in Feb 2009, documents requested By IAD in May sent in June , IAD hearing in Sept 2009 ND CHC start processing in Last week of Oct.2009 , again asked for new set of forms and family info, medical done again with police clearence , in nov.2009passport request in dec.visa issued on 24 dec. passport back indelhi on 31st dec.2009
just a up date and timeline hope this will give bit of idea how ND CHC doing good luck to everyone and best wishes for year2010
 

Sanjayk, you have been through so much; I am very happy for you.  Now it is time to put this all behind you and be together.  Forget the pain and frustrations and always remember how much you both wanted to be together.

Congratulations again, God Bless you both and thank you so much for sharing this information with us.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 12:07am
Originally posted by nlohchab nlohchab wrote:

PPR request and photos, docs document returned together.

Thank you nlohchab for letting us know; this seems to be to normal way and I am sure you will have good news to share with us very soon.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 12:13am
Sanjayk, I would love to hear more of your story and process if you feel that you can share please... no pressure. 

Thank you again for telling us what you have.


Posted By: gsinha
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 3:02am
Well i use to post on the old forum ....anyways just got my passport back with visa on 29th december. I had to get another medical done, becasue the old one had expired. New Delhi first recieved my papers on April 1, so it did take around 9-10 months after ND recieved all my papers.
 I was told by the immigration officer (great guy, always returned my call and emails) that my security/background check took almost 5 months because i live in canada and i applied through new delhi. The RCMP is really busy (high case load) and they are taking appro 6 months or so for checks. He also said, if i was residing in india the process wouldve finished way sooner.
 
Anyways all's well that ends well. Now i have to gather information on how to drive to the border and get the last leg of process done there. Any advice will be highly appreciated.
 
thanks
 
p.s- my wife sponsored me.


Posted By: CNTO
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 8:20am
HI EVERYONE
I HAVE SEND MY PASSPORT ON  DEC 30
HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL TAKE TO COME BACK
I NEVER VISITED ANY OTHER COUNTRY
NO TRAVEL HISTORY


Posted By: broodfaun
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 10:25am
Originally posted by July09 July09 wrote:

Originally posted by nlohchab nlohchab wrote:

PPR request and photos, docs document returned together.

Thank you nlohchab for letting us know; this seems to be to normal way and I am sure you will have good news to share with us very soon.


Same here..along with ppr.


Posted By: sanjayk
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 10:59am
Hello Kandareen/July09,In regards to my story well it was lots of mistakes of IO ,which we found i her caps notes she has put so many objections which are irrelevnt at that time and at the same time  she dosn't know what kind of marriage she is dealing with , we preformed north indian hindu wedding , not a Punjabi wedding , as we all know that there are so many customs and every stae has there own retuals ,any one who hear story stats laughing but you know there have the power this woman (IO )was so confussed that she even dosen't knowwho she intervied hindu girl or punjabi girl , well we have gone through hell but finally things are over now but i am waiting for the time so i can teach a lesson to IO/Minster/there adviser Mr jairath who advise ND about the weddings He is sitting there from last 35 yrs andhe is still following the same old style he should sit with his family and relax  now he is old we are in 2010 he is talking aabout 1976 ,any way
 
my time line oct2008 cpc toronto
aproved nov2008
ND CHC start processingDEC.2008
Interview feb2009
dession made feb refussed
IAD subimited feb 2009
IAD asked for more documents
IAD hearing sept2009
IAD laughed at the notes of IO at the hearing
file reached back new delhi start processing oct 2009
redone med/police report submited nov 2009
passport request dec. visa issued dec.2009
passport rec. dec.2009
thank god what a pain
any question please feel free to ask
good luck to every one
 


Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 11:40am
hi - sanjayk

Firstly Congratulations! on getting  visa, I was reading your post  and was trying to understand one of your comment "IAD laughed at the notes of IO at the hearing"   what was so funny? If you don't mind could you please add some further elaboration

Regards
AGM


-------------
Appeal Allowed - 02-18-09,
CHC ND Resumed Processing - 05-20-09,Medical Redo 08-12-09,Present status - Background Check.


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by sanjayk sanjayk wrote:

Hello Kandareen/July09,In regards to my story well it was lots of mistakes of IO ,which we found i her caps notes she has put so many objections which are irrelevnt at that time and at the same time  she dosn't know what kind of marriage she is dealing with , we preformed north indian hindu wedding , not a Punjabi wedding , as we all know that there are so many customs and every stae has there own retuals ,any one who hear story stats laughing but you know there have the power this woman (IO )was so confussed that she even dosen't knowwho she intervied hindu girl or punjabi girl , well we have gone through hell but finally things are over now but i am waiting for the time so i can teach a lesson to IO/Minster/there adviser Mr jairath who advise ND about the weddings He is sitting there from last 35 yrs andhe is still following the same old style he should sit with his family and relax  now he is old we are in 2010 he is talking aabout 1976 ,any way
 
my time line oct2008 cpc toronto
aproved nov2008
ND CHC start processingDEC.2008
Interview feb2009
dession made feb refussed
IAD subimited feb 2009
IAD asked for more documents
IAD hearing sept2009
IAD laughed at the notes of IO at the hearing
file reached back new delhi start processing oct 2009
redone med/police report submited nov 2009
passport request dec. visa issued dec.2009
passport rec. dec.2009
thank god what a pain
any question please feel free to ask
good luck to every one
 
 
hey
congratss... our process is nothing compare to yours ...
what is IAD?


Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 12:11pm
sunilpatel100

IAD - The Immigration Appeal Division  hears and decides appeals on immigration matters such as appeals from refused sponsorship applications and from removal orders.

You can find additional information on their web site, Please see the link below
http://www.irb.gc.ca/Eng/Pages/index.aspx -
AGM


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Appeal Allowed - 02-18-09,
CHC ND Resumed Processing - 05-20-09,Medical Redo 08-12-09,Present status - Background Check.


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 12:45pm
what's your timeline AGM?


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by CNTO CNTO wrote:

HI EVERYONE
I HAVE SEND MY PASSPORT ON  DEC 30
HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL TAKE TO COME BACK
I NEVER VISITED ANY OTHER COUNTRY
NO TRAVEL HISTORY
 
Hi CNTO,
 
Congrats on Passport request..It usually takes anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks.But it can take longer than that as well as we have seen in some other cases..
Can you please post your timeline here..
 
Scorpio
 


Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by sunilpatel100 sunilpatel100 wrote:

what's your timeline AGM?

Hi - sunilpatel100, 

A very long and painful  Immigration journey, I dont think my timeline will make any sense to you, but since you have asked I am posting here.

Sponsored my wife in March 2005 
Sponsorship approved in April 2005 
CHC ND began processing April 2005
Visa refused - July 2006
IAD- ADR [Alternative dispute resolution]  Failed - April 2008
Full Board hearing -November 2008
Appeal Allowed Feb 2009 - [ File sent back to CHC ND to continue processing]
CHC ND resumed the processing again  - May 2009
CHC ND requested to redo forms +  Medicals  - August 2009
Since then waiting for PPR....


Presently I am in India and hope I can take my family along with me to Canada

AGM 




-------------
Appeal Allowed - 02-18-09,
CHC ND Resumed Processing - 05-20-09,Medical Redo 08-12-09,Present status - Background Check.


Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 1:29pm
Wow, AGM... reading your time line makes me feel angry and frustrated for all the pain and suffering you and your spouse must have experienced all this time. It is ridiculous to make a human being be apart from their spouse for that long. I don't understand the logic behind it all and the long time between any action from immigration in your case. Did you have to move to India in the interim?


Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by CNTO CNTO wrote:

HI EVERYONE
I HAVE SEND MY PASSPORT ON  DEC 30
HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL TAKE TO COME BACK
I NEVER VISITED ANY OTHER COUNTRY NO TRAVEL HISTORY

Hi CNTO... usually it takes 2 weeks to get your PP back, but one man on this forum didn't get his back for almost 2.5 months. So anything is possible.


Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 2:12pm
Originally posted by AGM AGM wrote:

hi - sanjayk


Edited- Please ignore as I didn't read your post throughly.


Firstly Congratulations! on getting  visa, I was reading your post  and was trying to understand one of your comment "IAD laughed at the notes of IO at the hearing"   what was so funny? If you don't mind could you please add some further elaboration

Regards
AGM


Sanjayk,

Also you mentioned about a guy k  k  j a r th.  Even I had a very bad experience with him. He screwed up my case too. He is still working on my case and I hope this time he make a right decision.  

He is very senior and been in CHC ND since 1 9 7 5 and at presently holds post as a S e n i o r P r o g r a m O f f i c e r.

Regards

AGM


-------------
Appeal Allowed - 02-18-09,
CHC ND Resumed Processing - 05-20-09,Medical Redo 08-12-09,Present status - Background Check.


Posted By: Scorpio 9791
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 2:32pm
Hey Sanjay..Congrats on completing this long and painful journey..What part of North India are you from???
 


Posted By: AGM
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by kandareen kandareen wrote:

Wow, AGM... reading your time line makes me feel angry and frustrated for all the pain and suffering you and your spouse must have experienced all this time. It is ridiculous to make a human being be apart from their spouse for that long. I don't understand the logic behind it all and the long time between any action from immigration in your case. Did you have to move to India in the interim?

 

Hi - Kandareen,

For the past five years we have been experiencing severe hardship, physical and mental stress. There is no specific reason behind long time between each action. I suppose this is how their system works.  I've been doing short term contract Jobs for almost 4 years now so that I can spend time with my family here in India.  Since 2006 I've made 10 round trips to India plus had to hire reputed attorney for 2 rounds of hearing. Now I am financially exhausted and just fed up with this broken CIC system.

Hope year 2010 will bring us some good news.

Regards

AGM



-------------
Appeal Allowed - 02-18-09,
CHC ND Resumed Processing - 05-20-09,Medical Redo 08-12-09,Present status - Background Check.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 5:50pm
Originally posted by gsinha gsinha wrote:

Well i use to post on the old forum ....anyways just got my passport back with visa on 29th december. I had to get another medical done, becasue the old one had expired. New Delhi first recieved my papers on April 1, so it did take around 9-10 months after ND recieved all my papers.
 I was told by the immigration officer (great guy, always returned my call and emails) that my security/background check took almost 5 months because i live in canada and i applied through new delhi. The RCMP is really busy (high case load) and they are taking appro 6 months or so for checks. He also said, if i was residing in india the process wouldve finished way sooner.
 
Anyways all's well that ends well. Now i have to gather information on how to drive to the border and get the last leg of process done there. Any advice will be highly appreciated.
 
thanks
 
p.s- my wife sponsored me.

Congratulations gsinha, it is always nice to hear good news!

What border are you looking at going to; if it is Buffalo I suggest you don't go to Lewiston.  Peace and Rainbow bridge are both good options.  If you call CIC 1 888 242‑2100, they could best advise you what to bring and your next step.

I wish you all the best and a prosperous future.


Posted By: July09
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 6:21pm
Hello sanjayk and AGM, thank you for joining and sharing your experiences here with us.  You are both obviously more familiar with the process and any information you feel you can add would be most appreciated.

I have some questions that come to mind:
One member here had passport request, no documents returned and than they still asked for a piece document...any thoughts.

My husband got a call Dec 8th saying he was approved, gave him his immigration file number and asked him to send passport (ND received passport Dec 9th) but they are still holding on to all our documents at this stage... any thoughts.  

Finally, did you notice any slow down in ND processing at the end of 2008; I am hoping there will be a rush of visa's approved this month because of the back log of applications still coming in each day.  I say this because on the old forum, timeline for beginning of 2009 was quick (3 months from Mississauga to receiving passport) up to May 2009...then it started to slow down gradually to a trickle.

Any observations or trends you have observed would be greatly appreciated.


Posted By: shampy2009
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 10:01pm
Hello Guys

Congrats to all who already got their PPR and Stamped VISA on their passport. Today is Monday in india almost 8:30 am. Wish you all this week and new year will bring positive things! Waiting for Case sepecific email enquiry. Having good hopes today !!


Posted By: OCT_2009
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2010 at 12:38am

ND has Passport for around 6 weeks.. ShockedConfusedUnhappy

 


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2010 at 1:07am
Originally posted by AGM AGM wrote:

Originally posted by sunilpatel100 sunilpatel100 wrote:

what's your timeline AGM?

Hi - sunilpatel100, 

A very long and painful  Immigration journey, I dont think my timeline will make any sense to you, but since you have asked I am posting here.

Sponsored my wife in March 2005 
Sponsorship approved in April 2005 
CHC ND began processing April 2005
Visa refused - July 2006
IAD- ADR [Alternative dispute resolution]  Failed - April 2008
Full Board hearing -November 2008
Appeal Allowed Feb 2009 - [ File sent back to CHC ND to continue processing]
CHC ND resumed the processing again  - May 2009
CHC ND requested to redo forms +  Medicals  - August 2009
Since then waiting for PPR....


Presently I am in India and hope I can take my family along with me to Canada

AGM 


 
sorry to hear that my friend..
 
 
but all i can say is all the best for next step... it just make me angry why nd is being such idoit..


Posted By: kandareen
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2010 at 1:21am
Hi Gang...

I heard back from our case specific inquiry that we emailed to ND on Dec. 23. We needed to let them know that my hubby's cell phone would be off for a couple of days back then, giving an alternate number. I wrote to them as his legal representative with a copy of a hand signed letter by me (same as email) and a copy of the signed legal rep. form. I took the same opportunity to ask the status of his case. We just heard back from them today and this is all they wrote:

---------------------------------------------

Dear Sir/Madam,

This is in response to your recent email enquiry to the Immigration Section of the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi.

Please be advised that your file is under review and our office would contact you, once the processing is complete.

We trust that this information will be of assistance.

Immigration Section / Section de l’immigration
Canadian High Commission / Haut-Commissariat du Canada
7/8 Shantipath, Chanakyapuri
New Delhi
India / Inde

Fax:                            91-11-4178-2031
Information:                  91-11-4178-2050
Websites/ Sites web:   www.india.gc.ca
                                  www.cic.gc.ca
                                  www.vfs-canada.co.in
                                  www.goingtocanada.gc.ca

For all e-mail correspondence with our office, we request you to use the enquiries form at:
https://dmp-portal.cic.gc.ca/cicemail/intro-eng.aspx?mission=new%20delhi

Always include the applicant's full name, date of birth, and file number in your message.

Please include all your questions in a single message. In order to serve all clients better, we are not able to reply to multiple messages from the same client.

------------------------------------------------

So not everyone gets feedback when writing in.


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2010 at 1:44am
Originally posted by kandareen kandareen wrote:

Hi Gang...

I heard back from our case specific inquiry that we emailed to ND on Dec. 23. We needed to let them know that my hubby's cell phone would be off for a couple of days back then, giving an alternate number. I wrote to them as his legal representative with a copy of a hand signed letter by me (same as email) and a copy of the signed legal rep. form. I took the same opportunity to ask the status of his case. We just heard back from them today and this is all they wrote:

---------------------------------------------

Dear Sir/Madam,

This is in response to your recent email enquiry to the Immigration Section of the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi.

Please be advised that your file is under review and our office would contact you, once the processing is complete.

We trust that this information will be of assistance.

Immigration Section / Section de l’immigration
Canadian High Commission / Haut-Commissariat du Canada
7/8 Shantipath, Chanakyapuri
New Delhi
India / Inde

Fax:                            91-11-4178-2031
Information:                  91-11-4178-2050
Websites/ Sites web:   www.india.gc.ca
                                  www.cic.gc.ca
                                  www.vfs-canada.co.in
                                  www.goingtocanada.gc.ca

For all e-mail correspondence with our office, we request you to use the enquiries form at:
https://dmp-portal.cic.gc.ca/cicemail/intro-eng.aspx?mission=new%20delhi

Always include the applicant's full name, date of birth, and file number in your message.

Please include all your questions in a single message. In order to serve all clients better, we are not able to reply to multiple messages from the same client.

------------------------------------------------

So not everyone gets feedback when writing in.
 
what hell?? they r still reviewing your file.......  so sad nd is moving slow


Posted By: sunilpatel100
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2010 at 1:47am
Originally posted by OCT_2009 OCT_2009 wrote:

ND has Passport for around 6 weeks.. ShockedConfusedUnhappy

 
can ypu pls repeat your timeline?



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