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Processing time Update at cic.gc.ca

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Topic: Processing time Update at cic.gc.ca
Posted By: rahulchd
Subject: Processing time Update at cic.gc.ca
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 12:58am

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp#immigration



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Posted By: UKtoCAN
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 7:01am
Has it changed? it seems so


Posted By: silentoak
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 5:30am
Yes, I noticed that a day or 2 ago too. They also changed the country specific timelines, for the CIC offices. It now only says one number in Processing in Months.

Underneath that it says "based on a complete application package". Could anyone clarify that? I already went to look at their given explenation for it. But is it the time from beginning (you sending your file to a CIC office in Canada) to end (the office abroad asking for your passport)? Or is it just the latter part?


Posted By: silentoak
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by silentoak silentoak wrote:

Yes, I noticed that a day or 2 ago too. They also changed the country specific timelines, for the CIC offices. It now only says one number in Processing in Months.

Underneath that it says "based on a complete application package". Could anyone clarify that? I already went to look at their given explenation for it. But is it the time from beginning (you sending your file to a CIC office in Canada) to end (the office abroad asking for your passport)? Or is it just the latter part?

Edit: So it was pretty obviously stated that there's the 2 steps. And so it's the latter part.


Posted By: rahulchd
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 2:01pm
Basically what i understood is that these times are applicable when our documents are ok with the application and if anything they ask later on that there is any issue with the documents that might delay and increase processing time.


Posted By: EnglishMuffin
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 6:03pm
I would take it that the figures represent how long it has taken to process 80% of applications for the last twelve months of statistics at each office, from the point of starting the PR application at the outland visa office (or Vegreville if inland). The completed applications part, there is a link to another page which clarifies that this means all documents (which vary according to the application involved) are returned completed.

The time to assess the initial sponsorship at Missisauga is showing as (an additional) 41 days.


Posted By: Forestmember
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2010 at 11:57pm
Yes, they updated the system with new processing times and I believe the days shown are the maximum days needed to process an application, with postage included. The processing time for my application is 41 days (based on the date received up to). It was however processed in less than 32 days


Posted By: Patience Tuesday
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 11:40am
Thank you for posting that link.  I went to make sure that the application forms hadn't changed, just because.  XD

After all, they "changed" the MOC rules wherein you will be denied if you married PRIMARY to come into Canada, etc.  I would HATE for us to have printed off all the forms already, and just be waiting for our photos, medical, prints and marriage certificate only to find that the whole game has changed. 

I really like EnglishMuffin's interpretation of the link.  I'm still probably going to expect that this US to Canada request is going to take about six months, but I won't sweat it if it takes a year.  I imagine that others looking at that chart won't be calling into CIC all the time asking about their applications as often.  We'll see. 


Posted By: valy79
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 1:05pm
Thanks for posting. Too bad that they just put up these new number right after I sent in my application, because I might have requested to have it processed at a different office now...

I hope it won't take that long in reality (1 year total for my case) Confused. I doubt it though (if everything is alright with our application). I know somebody who got her application processed in about 6 months in Buffalo (as opposed to the 11 months they are stating now).


Posted By: audball
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 1:38pm
11 months for Buffalo seems off if you're an American going through that office


Posted By: valy79
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by audball audball wrote:

11 months for Buffalo seems off if you're an American going through that office


And if you are not? (because I am not....I am having legal status in Canada, and decided to send my application there instead of Vienna because the timelines were the exact same ones on the "old" timeline info, and I would rather fly to Buffalo for an interview as fly back to Europe, if that happens to come up)
Well, I hope I did not make the wrong decision...but I guess only time will tell.


Posted By: Joe_Gizmo
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 9:21am
This discussion all seems very interesting to me as I submitted through Buffalo as well. Our package -- Spousal Sponsorship -- was submitted around the first of June. My wife was approved as a Sponsor rather quickly (approx. 1 month) and the package was sent from Mississauga to Buffalo. We received notification that it was approved and we were requested to pay the Landing Fee approximately 1 month ago. Since then we have heard nothing. Does anyone know what happens next? Will I be asked to go to the Buffalo Consulate to show my passport? In other threads I have seen statements that some people are being asked to "mail their passport"? Is this true? If this is the "next step" when does it normally happen once the Landing Fee is paid? Many thanks for any help you can provide.


Posted By: Saya
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 10:34am
I'm not sure I like how they are presenting the stats. It's nice that it seems to be based Qrtly, however looking at the London figure of nine months seems very misleading. Folowing cases as I went through the process my best guess would be more on the four month side. I assume the nine months is probably more the max side of things, but still the range of 4 to 9 is a little more hopefull for new applicants. Just my $0.02.

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Meds - Apr 13/10
App rec'd CPC-M - Apr 21/10
Sponsor Aprvd - May 27/10
App In Process/Meds Rec'd - Jun 16/10
DM - July 27/10
PPR via Email - Aug 4/10
PP w/ VISA - Aug 24/10
CommonLaw - London


Posted By: silentoak
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2010 at 2:48pm
They're updating "Step 1" on a weekly basis. And I religiously check at least every week now, got pretty pumped to see CPC-M go down from 41 to 37 days again.

(also, I basically check every day anyway Smile)


Posted By: dpenabill
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 5:42am
I am fairly confident that most applicants going through Buffalo should see a processing timeline of significantly less than 11 months.

The timeline may be getting longer. The change in format for CIC's presentation of "how long it takes to process" an application may have been implemented to mask how much longer it is or will be taking. Hard to say. Hard to imagine, though, that what has persistently been the case for the last few years, as in that most spousal sponsored PR apps going through Buffalo reached the decision made stage in less than six months (CPC-M sponsor processing time included), has suddenly and dramatically increased beyond that.

It is disappointing, if not disconcerting, that CIC has gone to a less informative application timeline format.

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Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions.



BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration


Posted By: silentoak
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 10:42am
Originally posted by dpenabill dpenabill wrote:


It is disappointing, if not disconcerting, that CIC has gone to a less informative application timeline format.

True, it seems if anything the change should've gone in the progressive direction with more information.


Posted By: EnglishMuffin
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 11:30am
I would imagine its an approach taken by CIC to limit the number of people contacting them unnecessarily early in the process. Having just the one figure for 80% of applications in the last twelve months is a clearer line to draw as to when you should contact them about the status of your case or involve your MP.

Just my 2 cents.


Posted By: dpenabill
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 7:45pm
I thought that myself, that the change in format may indeed be in large part a reaction to how much CIC resources are diverted to respond to, well, impatient inquiries, an attempt to stem some of demands on CIC staff. I have not seen any formal explanation by CIC, and if anyone else has please share, so while this seems a fairly probable explanation we do not really know. And, in particular, the public is no longer informed as to how long it takes to process most applications (as in fifty percent); the gap between six months and eleven months is a long time for those waiting to be reunited with their partner -- if most qualified applicants who submit well-done and thoroughly supported applications still see (statistically) a final decision in approximately six months, that is information CIC should share. Families seeking unification should be entitled to realistic information as to how long qualified applications take to be processed, not some average incorporating the processing times for incomplete, unqualified, or otherwise problematic applications. Sure, in contrast, people should be more patient before demanding the expenditure of government resources to address their particular case -- although the anxiety and worry involved can be expected and government services should be responsive to such needs.

In other words, just because some people make premature demands on CIC for information does not mean CIC should cease offering realistic, particular information about the process; punishing most to address the problems posed by a few is simply wrongheaded.

And, in the meantime, there is no way for the public to know whether or not CIC will indeed now be taking several months longer to process most applications . . . the public will only be informed if the processing of a number larger than one in five applications takes longer (that is, so long as CIC processes 80 percent in 11 months, there will be no notice to the public if the fifty percent which was being processed in six months or less is now taking eight or ten months to process).   

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Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions.



BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration


Posted By: matthewc
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 9:55pm
It's frustrating. It does simplify the information they're publishing, and make it marginally easier to understand, but at the cost of the really important 50% mark, like dpenabill said. It would have been much better for them to use the 50% number, if picking just one to publish.

The real problem (which could actually cause logistical issues for CIC) is that many people will now look at the published numbers, and decide to apply inland, when in fact they would have gotten a decision really significantly faster applying overseas, because they don't understand that the published timeline is actually only for 1 in 5 cases... it's an overestimate for 4 out of 5, to the extend of being down-right misleading for those straight forward, no-complications applications typically processed in only a few months.


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Posted By: abstractioness
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 8:20pm
This is really disappointing. 9 months for the second stage of inland processing?! So after I get a work permit I can't leave the country for a further NINE MONTHS? I hope that what you're saying is the case for the Buffalo, that on average everything will be processed faster than stated.

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INLAND
Application received: 24 Sept 2010
Processing started: 15 Nov 2010
AIP: 27 June 2011
Landed: 4 Aug 2011


Posted By: BlueDragon17846
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2010 at 9:15am
Originally posted by matthewc matthewc wrote:

It's frustrating. It does simplify the information they're publishing, and make it marginally easier to understand, but at the cost of the really important 50% mark, like dpenabill said. It would have been much better for them to use the 50% number, if picking just one to publish.

The real problem (which could actually cause logistical issues for CIC) is that many people will now look at the published numbers, and decide to apply inland, when in fact they would have gotten a decision really significantly faster applying overseas, because they don't understand that the published timeline is actually only for 1 in 5 cases... it's an overestimate for 4 out of 5, to the extend of being down-right misleading for those straight forward, no-complications applications typically processed in only a few months.
Actually the inland timelines have gone up just as much, really.  Its 8-9 months for AIP and now 9 months for second stage.  Me and a few other inlanders are hoping that the second stage 9 months is actually a max (I had known many inlanders who got their second stage within like 2-3 months after AIP, prior to this timeline change).  But really that's a max of 18 months inland vs. max of 11 months outland.

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****INLAND****
App sent: 11 Dec 2009
App recv'd: 14 Dec 2009
App started processing: 1 Mar 2010
AIP: 13 Sept 2010
Fingerprints Requested for RCMP: 4 March 2011
LANDED!!: 12 May 2011


Posted By: duaduaki
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2010 at 12:18am
Hi everyone,
 
I am really lost, please help to analyse my case. Initiately, I would want to make a outland sponsorship, but the recent update of processing timelines at cic put me in dilema. My processing office in Singapore now takes approximately 18 months which is comparable to the timeline of inland sponsorship. From what I understand from reading this forum, upon the first stage assessment and approval of me (the sponsor), my spouse can apply for a work permit. From then on, she will have to wait another 9 months for stage 2 which is her application for PR.
 
Since now that the timeline for both are about the same, isn't it better to go for the inland route instead? I am considering this inland route because at least she gets a work permit in 9 months, rather than waiting for 18 months not able to do anything during the outland process. She will be with me in Canada regardless of which method we use. I am aware that she won't be able to leave the country via the inland application and there's no right of appeal. If she cross the border to US and return within the same day, is it considered leaving the country? And regarding the work permit, is it necessary to have a job offer first before she can apply for one and how long is it valid for?
 
Did I miss out on anything that outland is still preferable compare to inland? In other words, would there be more complications via the inland application?



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