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U.S Tourist Visa for Canadian PR denied

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Topic: U.S Tourist Visa for Canadian PR denied
Posted By: waverider
Subject: U.S Tourist Visa for Canadian PR denied
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 10:19am
Anyone have experience with this?
 
This is our second time applying for my husband (a PR who I sponsored, we are living in Canada together now) to get a tourist visa to visit the us (I think it is called a B2), as he is not from a visa expemt country.
 
The tourist visa is just for travel vacation purposes, and also he could book a flight with a U.S stopover when going back home, rather than paying for the more costly direct flights.
 
So he has been denied twice! He showed proof of my job and his, our apartment lease, etc, but they said they need more economic proof (I guess taxes I will show next time).
 
The first time he applied he had only been living in Canada less than 1 year and we found out later they rarely give them to PR who have lived here for less than a year.
 
Any advice on what sort of evidence we can use to have a sucessful application?
 
 



Replies:
Posted By: janimani
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 10:25am
Hi waverider,
 
My husband had been a PR for 10 months, when he applied for the US visa - and was denied.  The reason was that he didn't have strong enough ties to Canada (he took a letter from his work that said it was for vacation purposes).  The guy told him to come back next year. 
 
We're not going to apply again because in January he will be eligible for Canadian Citizenship - so won't need a visa.
 
When my husband went - he said they were rejecting everyone.  So I guess it's hard to get.
 


Posted By: waverider
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 10:51am
Hi Janimani,
 
Thanks for the reply. I had a coworker last year who got hers after being PR for about a year, though she didn't have a job at the time (she was volunteering at the university while waiting to get accepted to stufy). She said she just showed a letter from her husbands employer (and it wasn't that high paying of a job)!
 
I do think from seeing immgration cases of men vs. women that often women have an easier time (seems to be men are more likely to immigrate illegally to US or Canada for work and are thus under more suspicion)...
 
thanks for your response. Maybe we will try once more then wait for citizenship.
 


Posted By: janimani
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 11:50am
I never thought of it as a man/women thing - but now that you mention it - it's probably true.  I am jsut tired of the whole immigration process - so at this point I no longer care. We'll jut wait a couple more months untill Citizenship time, and be done with it forever!


Posted By: rbenoit
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 1:23pm
My wife had no problem getting a US travel visa after being in Canada about 16 months.
 
For those of you who's husbands or wives are applying for travel visa in the US what was your status in Canada?
Were you a born Canadian citizen and sponsored your husband/wife to Canada? or
Were you a born outside Canada and then became a PR and then became a Canadian citizen and then sponsored your husband/wife to Canada? or
Where you a PR and sponsored your husband/wife to Canada as a PR?
 
I think the answer to this question might have a lot to do with the US visa denial.
I may be wrong but if you were born a Canadian citizen and your spouse is a sponsored PR they will have little or no problem getting a US Visa.
 
If you were born outside of Canada and came to Canada as a PR and then got citizenship or if you are still a PR in Canada and sponsored your spouse to Canada, you will have a much harder time getting a US Visa.


Posted By: janimani
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 1:36pm
Actually -
 
I think that may not be the case.  I am a Canadian Citizen (born here) and sponsored my husband who is a PR.  He got denied.  I think it's the length of time the PR is in Canada - because basically the officer said that he didn't have strong enought ties to Canada even though we provided:
 
1) His job letter that outlied vacation time
2) My job letter
 and other documentation.
 
Who knows how they do it!


Posted By: rbenoit
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by janimani janimani wrote:

Actually -
 
I think that may not be the case.  I am a Canadian Citizen (born here) and sponsored my husband who is a PR.  He got denied.  I think it's the length of time the PR is in Canada - because basically the officer said that he didn't have strong enought ties to Canada even though we provided:
 
1) His job letter that outlied vacation time
2) My job letter
 and other documentation.
 
Who knows how they do it!
 
I have no doubt there are a lot of factors on their decisions.
 
Perhaps male/female gender does play a part.
Time spent in Canada after getting Canadian PR I am sure is taken in consideration.
I am certainly curious if the nationality of the Canadian PR's spouse has anything to do with it as well.
 
Cheers!!!


Posted By: canvis2006
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 1:46pm
It is a common misconception that being a PR of Canada automatically grants somebody a 'leniency' for visas to the US if they come from a country which is not visa-exempt.

With a world after 9/11, I would say that only go to US if absolutely absolutely necessary. If it is just a matter of flying out of US, just spend extra money and fly with peace of mind from Canadian airports.

Even if you do get a visa, US Immigration gives a tough time (questioning) even if all you're doing is changing flights in their country.



Posted By: MajidS
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 2:06pm
My wife was able to get a visit visa for the US after being here as a PR (myself sponsoring her) for only 7 months ...... There's a misconception about being a PR and acquiring US visit visa .... The Americans use the PR status as a deciding point, however, they also evaluate the applicant and the spouse from scratch .......
 
My case, wife is a home care giver and never worked .... Her entire case rested 100% on my credentials for job, salary, strong ties to Canada, history in Canada .... So, my only conclusion from our own personal experience is that the Americans approved my wife's application only and only based on my data .... Hope that helps ....


Posted By: waverider
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 9:07am
Originally posted by rbenoit rbenoit wrote:

My wife had no problem getting a US travel visa after being in Canada about 16 months.
 
I think the answer to this question might have a lot to do with the US visa denial.
I may be wrong but if you were born a Canadian citizen and your spouse is a sponsored PR they will have little or no problem getting a US Visa.
 
If you were born outside of Canada and came to Canada as a PR and then got citizenship or if you are still a PR in Canada and sponsored your spouse to Canada, you will have a much harder time getting a US Visa.
 
Thanks for the insight and different experiences; it always helps.
 
Rbenoit I am Canadian born and sponsored my husband (who is a PR and has been here for about 1.5 yr). So our case doens't fit with your theory but you never know!
 
The only thing I don't quite understand is why they are so stringent at this point with a PR who in about 17 months will be a Canadian Citizen who can enter the US without a visa. So, while they seem to be worried about illegal immigration to the US in my husbands case, he could just wait until he is a Citizen and then do it if it was what he really wanted....
 
I DO get a sense from hearing different stories that husbands and wives might incite different suspicions. Seems women are having an easier time getting the visa. I supplied work info from my job (good job and salary with a large multinational) for my husbands visa, but still they didn't grant the visa (he is also employed as well, and showed evidence)
 
 


Posted By: waverider
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 9:10am

MajidS makes the point that in his wife's case:

 "Her entire case rested 100% on my credentials for job, salary, strong ties to Canada, history in Canada..."
 
Would the visa have been granted to MajidS (or any other husband) if the case was reversed? Just curious (my feeling is "not as easily")!


Posted By: rbenoit
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 9:24am
So it could very well be that gender and the spouses credentials may be the deciding factor.
I do personally know a few other couples in which the wife was the PR and they also got a US visa, no problem.
In fact, for those of you who did get a visa, did you apply for a single entry visa only to get your passport back with a 10 year multiple entry visa stamped in your passport?
This happened to my wife and at least 1 or 2 other "wives" that we know.
 
Best of luck.


Posted By: sami55
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 11:11am
i had the same feeling as canvis and yet I am British from UK

and I was only just fying thru US to save money.....
we get this stressful experience because immigration is always introducing new, more stringent barriers...

but the happy ending is that it all worked out for me.
I went thru US and in canada...

but I am not PR yet


Posted By: sami55
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 2:58pm
here it is
this is what I meant when I replied to english miffin and BRIT


Posted By: waverider
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 10:57am
Any other experiences?
 
Just curious as I am employed and demonstrated  proof of good salary, strong ties to Canada etc, as did my husband (though he is self-employed so perhaps his proof was not seen as demonstrating strong enough ties), and my husband was refused....would like to hear if any male PR's were sucessful in obtaining a US visitor visa.
 
The visa officer noted that for my husband, proof of business licence, his lease for his office, and other evidence (in addition to a letter from my employer stating my salary) and our apartment lease was not enough - he would need to show better proof of economic stability with taxes.


Posted By: D-dawg
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 3:01pm
Hi, 

I was wondering about what documents to take to the US consulate when applying for the Visitor Visa for a vacation. I've been a PR for 10 years and have a job in the government sector. 

Should I take a letter from my employer, tax statement, bank statement.... ? What else would help? 

Thanks! 


Posted By: tanushree.tiku
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 4:32pm
i applied for my visa in march(landed here in june 2010) and it he officer didnt see any of my documents


Posted By: D-dawg
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 3:05am
Originally posted by tanushree.tiku tanushree.tiku wrote:

i applied for my visa in march(landed here in june 2010) and it he officer didnt see any of my documents

Which consulate did you apply at? 


Posted By: canvis2006
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 10:42pm
You must have all supporting documentation to support your ties to Canada, and enough money, and all the paperwork about work, etc and perhaps a itinerary for the flights, etc



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