Post Test RQ receipients ONLY ( Since 2009)
Printed From: Canada Immigration and Visa Discussion Forum
Category: Canada Immigration Topics
Forum Name: Canadian Citizenship
Forum Description: Commentaries outlining important issues in acquiring Canadian citizenship through naturalization
URL: https://secure.immigration.ca/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13758
Printed Date: 23 Jun 2024 at 8:07am
Topic: Post Test RQ receipients ONLY ( Since 2009)
Posted By: Rqcadet
Subject: Post Test RQ receipients ONLY ( Since 2009)
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 9:41am
|
Dear All, Started a Post Test RQ received applicants topic, so that we can trace each others issues & timelines. Looks like we have a couple of us scattered in the other discussion topics like Citizenship time line , RQ discussions & RQ timeline. Please post ur timelines & further communications here if u wish. Since there are 2 separate categories of RQ receipients like Pre & post test, the delayed timelines for post test RQ's is not getting highlighted in the regular RQ timeline topic. Most of us have almost or above 35 months timeline now. Looks like CIC has published the 35 month timeline only for pre -test RQ receipients, because if u look some at some of the pre-test RQ applicants in this forum, it shows their papers are getting processed within these timelines. |
Replies:
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 10:41am
|
hey-hey October the 4th - 46 months since I applied / 32 months since RQ is received by CIC office - Mississauga ( initially) /st. Clair applied - Dec 04 , 2009 test/RQ - Feb 15, 2011 (passed) Cic last activity - Sep 24 , 2013 - letter saying that my case is still in process, and I may want to renew pr card and advised to do so. ( mine is expired) ( reason RQ issued: failed to provide old passport, brought photocopies of not all pages from the old passport - "can't trust me as I'm hiding smth") www.franccita.com ------------- landed: May, 2003 applied: Dec04,2009 test/RQ: Feb15,2011 st.clair 2nd RQ: Aug 2014 Total waiting time to oath: 60,5 months :)= 5 years and 14 days oath- Dec , 2014 |
Posted By: CREPTON
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 12:16pm
|
EXCELLENT IDEA TO HAVE THIS THREAD. THANK YOU APP DATE : 5/2011 TEST: 3/2012 TEST PASSED BUT RQ RECEIVED AT SPOT RQ RESPONDED 6/2012 LOCAL OFFICE IS MISSISSAUGA No news since then but I can see through the ATIP that my security checks were renewed this year. This waiting cost me too much and I feel the pain of every one here but I hope we will get out of this tunnel at the end. |
Posted By: kfq
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 12:31pm
kfq Applied september 200 9with 2 kids then under 18(one will be finishing University 2014  ,started processing may 2010 ,pre-test RQ may 2012,test october 2012,Aug 2013 file sent to CJ. awaiting ....
|
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 12:47pm
|
Forgot to add my own timeline. Application submitted- Nov 2010 Ackowledgement received - Feb 2011 Test - Sept 2011 Rq received- 1 on test date & 1 by mail in - Nov 2011 Complete RQ submitted with supporting documents - Nov 2011 from then till now only waiting!!!!!! Passed the test known from the ATIP done twice this year i.e 2013 Reason for RQ- Not known, Will complete 35 months since application on 15th oct |
Posted By: Roni
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 2:09pm
|
Greate idea, Oct 2010 received feb 2011 Fingerprint Feb2012 Test Marth 2013 Rq Sep 2013 I will send in October I called healt Quebec she told me there is to many people applying this days so we can send up to 27 days, ------------- 08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133 |
Posted By: allyp
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 2:38pm
|
Hi Applied - Oct 2010 Test - Oct 4, 2011 RQ - After test ( Oct 24th) RQ reply sent - Dec 2011 35 months from date of appln completed - Sept 4th 2013 Called CIC , They have sent message to St Clair and have asked to call up after 3 months.
|
Posted By: RQ-Discuss
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 3:04pm
|
Applied: Nov.2009
Test: January 2011
RQ: May 2011
RQ sent back: June 2011
Still waiting
 Phycial presense: More than 1095 days
ATIP requested: Test: Passed, No update as per the recent ATIP in Aug. 2013
Good luck everyone out here.
------------- Seeking information |
Posted By: RQ0712
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 4:33pm
|
Physical presence: More than 1095 days. Please see the message tagline for my timeline... ------------- Application sent Jan 2011 > In process Feb 2012 > Test & RQ same day Jun 2012 > RQ submitted Aug 2012 > Oath taken Nov 2013 (Montreal) |
Posted By: polarbear
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 7:00pm
Hi RQ_DISCUSS Exactly how many physical presence days did you show? Can u be more specific? 
|
RQ-Discuss wrote:Posted By: polarbear
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 7:01pm
Hi RQ 0712: Exactly how may physical presence days did you show?\ Can u be more specific?
|
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 10:24pm
I landed in may 2003 , much more than 1095
|
Posted By: polarbear
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 10:49pm
Hi Greeny, 2003 wow, u deserve 2 Canadian Passports  
|
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 10:26am
|
Hey All Applied - oct-2011 in process - jan 2012 Test - nov 2012 RQ - nov 2012 - ST.clair ( Given RQ at test) Sent RQ - Dec 2012 WAITING .............. Reason for the RQ given by the test interviewer was, I was unemployed for 8 months when i landed in the country. I had well over 1095 days before i applied. ordered ATIP in june 2013. shows I have passed the test and RQ on shelf at st.clair to be processed. I will be ordering ATIP reports every 3 months since i don't see a point calling the call center and and have disabled checking online status. ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: CREPTON
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 3:12pm
|
I have requested ATIP since September 01. Does any one know of any phone number that I can contact to check the status? Other than their email. Thanks |
Posted By: 514MTL
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 7:19pm
|
I am really sad to post my timeline here. I've just received a RQ Applied Aug/2011 In process Nov/2012 Test April/2013 RQ received Oct/2013 Montreal office ------------- Montreal Office: Applied 08/2011 In process 11/2012 Test 04/17/2013 RQ received 10/2013 RQ sent 11/2013 Oath 02/26/2015 |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 7:41pm
yeap, I should have found time to make application earlier, but... that's ok, just waiting
|
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 7:42pm
usually it takes 5 weeks, if you don't get by October 10th, I think you can email them
|
Posted By: CREPTON
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 8:08pm
Thanks Greeny! I hope something happened for the past three months which I doubt. I've no hope to see anything before the 48 months in the best case scenario. The 35 months bench mark is just a number. |
Posted By: Roni
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 8:40pm
sorry :((( But don't be sad, one day for sure.... I am really sorry, ------------- 08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133 |
Posted By: Roni
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 8:50pm
|
Hi Greeny , I posted 2 times that i am stuck in some question in RQ dont no how to answer, could you help please, 1- citizenship application specifically , from ........ to............. (should write the date i become PR untll today or until the day I applied ? 4 years, 2- q,8 if you have less then 1095 explain the reason? (I am over 1095 day should I leave empty or write N/A ? 3- Write your family members and where they live since you been in Canada? ( My dad and big brother pass away before i come to Canada should I write them or just others, Thank you, ------------- 08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133 |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 9:34pm
Actually, I can't remeber what was there in that quiz  1. this one I don't know , what's the full question? 2. I put n/a 3. I think just parents and sisters and brothers , and no don't mention your father and elder brother (sorry for this grief fact of your life)
|
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 9:36pm
I remember you, and thought you are done, suprised to see you here and more surprised to read this news , eehh
 , seems you've got RQ virus while reading our posts |
Posted By: 514MTL
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 10:04pm
|
Thanks guys for the support, I really appreciate it! This experience has been rough and this was the longest day to end since I arrived in Canada. I already have 10 lbs of paper to send to CIC... and counting. ------------- Montreal Office: Applied 08/2011 In process 11/2012 Test 04/17/2013 RQ received 10/2013 RQ sent 11/2013 Oath 02/26/2015 |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 11:09pm
|
it's interesting refreshment at my Ecas ( for the first time after invitation for the test in January 2011) "We sent you a letter on September 24, 2013. If you have not yet provided the information or the requested documents, please do so as soon as possible. Please wait until you receive the letter before sending us additional information, as the letter will outline all information that is required. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us." in letter that came they are writing about my correspondence, actually I called to CIC and they made the second report inquiry on the dated stated in the letter. Pay attention to "WAIT and don't call us" the letter itself recommended me to renew my pr card and acknowledged RQ docs to be received in March 2011. anyways , smth new happened
 |
Posted By: compliance
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 11:24pm
|
Posted By: satangel
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 10:57pm
|
Hi everybody, Can we know for each the reason of RQ post-test? I'll get soon the test invitation (regarding my office stats) and I want to be ready for both test and the INTERVIEW (which's the biggest cause of post-test RQ).  Thanks for everyone ------------- Simple mind, happy man |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 11:26pm
once you get RQ start thinking about it, and at that point you would have pretty much time to prepare what's the reason thinking about it now?
|
Posted By: satangel
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 11:35pm
|
Hi Greeny, If we fellow the new trend, w,ll find that too much post-test RQ was issued. It's enough to be stressed Isn'it? My objective is only to know how to answer to CIC agent and what dox may I bring me for Test-interview Thanks ------------- Simple mind, happy man |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 6:22am
|
Hey All I had ordered my
Physical files through the ATIP. I just received it yesterday. I must say it
does give a lot more information on what’s going on with the application. I see
all the remarks and details of why i got RQ'ed.
Just before the citizenship test, my
application was being reviewed and I see that officer has made some remarks on
my case in order to issue me the RQ.
Remarks: On OCT 4 2012 (1 month before
the test)
1. 1. No PRC card rec’d ( I am not sure what
does this mean) 2. 2. JMW CCT PRC SYD ( I had applied for PR card Renewal
– Requested for urgent process 2 months after I put my PR card renewal
application but they declined it because my application was already in process)
3. 3. PR card exchange required. Client states 356 days absent.(When I applied for my citizenship in OCT 2011, I had 296 days absent from Canada. After I applied for Citizenship, I traveled out of the country for about 60 days in total and then applied for PR card renewal in August 2012. So my application for PR card renewal states 356 days which is a concern to them) 4. 4. Spouse living aboard with child. ( My child
was born out of Canada and I was waiting for my son’s immigration to be
processed. Thats why wife was living abroad with child. This might have raised
the red flag for my RQ)
In the Foss report they have highlighted:
Client relations specialist received urgent request
for PR card. Request refused.
From all this, what I understand is that any travel
after applying for Citizenship might raise flags for the issue of RQ. If any of
the family member lives abroad for prolonged period that can be a cause. So even if I had more than enough days to
apply for citizenship and fulfilled all the requirements, it is not enough. Edit: i was unemployed for 8 months after i landed in Canada which is the reason i was given by the test interviewer for the issue of RQ
Any comments on this is much appreciated. ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 8:00am
------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 9:56am
|
Hi asifatt, Thnks for putting the info in the table format. U can add the details of my office which is St clair now. Initially it was Mississauga. there are more people too in this Post Rq category like wailtys,waiting for citizenship, compliance, RobertB, Meeru, and many more. Can u add thier timeline too? How much time it took for youto get the physical ATIP report? What is the last update it has in ur file now? |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 10:52am
|
Yes i thought the table would make it easier to track the timeline. I'll update others soon. I got the ATIP by mail. They sent me a CD. It took 35 days. The last update is Responsible Officer on 2013/01/31. I believe it mean my file has been assigned to an officer. The last notes i see is they received my package and to be matched to file on the RQ shelf in ST.clair ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: beastco
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 2:23pm
| Mine shows in RQ bin in Scarborough to be sent to St. Claire since 13 months ago. What does that mean? |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 2:32pm
|
whats your timeline beastco? When did you get your ATIP report? it means is your RQ is sitting in the Queue. ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: beastco
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2013 at 3:16pm
|
Did the test in October of 2012. Got the RQ same day I think at the centre or it was mailed to me - not sure. Filled that out and ATIP issued last week shows that it was filed. So, how long is the Queue? Does it mean it's not reviewed at all yet? and does it mean that I can get more RQs? What if my RQ is not complete? I am not sure if I took it seriously but now all the reading about it makes me worried. Thanks for the reply
|
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2013 at 3:48pm
|
The Queue is
indefinite. Although there is nothing to be discouraged about as these delays
are normal with CIC when the RQ is issued. It can take 1 year or 3 years time
for the file to be reviewed. You just have to wait it out and hope for the
best. No you will not get any more RQ's. If
your RQ is incomplete CIC will send you a letter and request for more
information. This can delay your application significantly and they may refer
your case to a judge hearing. ---- Just as a side note about you
being worried about Citizenship and RQ drama. Nothing is there to worry about. These
are normal symptoms when a person get the RQ and the effects that it has on
your brains are just temporary. Your frustration and pain will subside with
time. It might take a few month or a few years but you DO NOT need to worry.
You will soon realize that Canada’s Ex-immigration and Citizenship
minister and CIC wants you to be a worthy Canadian. They want to test your
ability to sustain frustration, pain and all other non-sense they can throw at
you. They presume everybody guilty until proven innocent unlike the justice
system where you are innocent until proven guilty. So please Don’t Worry. Just
relax, Drink Beer, BBQ in your back yard and watch hockey. You will eventually
become a Canadian Citizen :D ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2013 at 8:48pm
thank you! oh, I'm on the top of the mountain
 |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 12:48pm
|
Greeny soon you will be off the list.. i hope :D ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 1:56pm
thank you sending application for PR renewal ( my third one since I'm in canada) this week, hope not to get to RQ for PR card rating list |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 2:03pm
ymax CIC Office: Mississauga Recieved by mail: May 2009 Online Status: Nov 2009 Recieved ACK: Nov 2009 Proces Start: Feb 2010 Transf May 2010 Test Nov 18 2010 RQ trasf St Clair Nov 2012 safderalimd Oct 2009 - Applied as family Jun 2010 - File transferred to local office St.clair Jun 2011 - Wife's exam Sep 2012 - Received RQ Oct 2012 - Husband exam (15 months after wife's exam, human error by local office, as per law both exams to happen on same day) Jul 3rd, 2013 - Judge reviwed RQ and granted citizenship oath- ? meeru applied may 2009 Jay_61 May 2009, test in Oct 2010 RQ in Feb 2011 RQ0712 Application sent Jan 2011 > In process Feb 2012 > Test & RQ same day Jun 2012 > RQ submitted Aug 2012 |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 2:58pm
------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: Devon
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 11:08am
|
Hi All, I don't want to disappoint you guys but let me quote what CIC told me. "Please be advised that processing times for residency questionnaires has increased significantly from previously stated timeframe. Please note that current processing time is now up to 35 months from the date the completed residency questionnaire and requested documents were submitted to the office responsible for processing your application."
|
Posted By: CREPTON
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 11:15am
Hi Devon, Don't worry call again and they will tell you different answer and then call again a new answer. Honestly, they don't know any thing. Some time they tell a person whi has an application from 2009/2010 your application is received and the RQ also has been received as if the called who is in pain for the last 3 years doesn't know that. Simply, no one know and know one can do any thing about it. Just wait and wait and................. |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 11:33am
|
Just had a chat with
Immigration lawyer today. I went with my cousin for him and his family to file for citizenship (he does not want to take any chances even though it’s an easy process to file a citizenship application), so I had a chat with the lawyer about the RQ fiasco. He said he has helped many clients with their RQ and till date out of 100’s of clients he has for RQ, less than 20 applicants have been processed and received their Citizenship so far. His take on RQ is that it is one of the worst implemented fraud measures taken by CIC and they have created massive backlog (dint have nice things to say about Jason Kenny). Any new measures that are been taken at this time will be for new applicants only so other who have applied in 2011 and 2012 and especially who have been given RQ will not be processed anytime soon. Interestingly, he said some of his clients withdrew their citizenship application that received RQ and have reapplied for citizenship. He based their new application on the fact that they have taken none/few short vacation trips; employed full time for the past 4 years, have not changed addresses. His advice to me is to reapply based on the fact I have been given post-test RQ and it is being processed at the St.Clair office, which is the slowest office in Canada due to their massive backlog. Seeing the timeline of post-test RQ victims, and no one reporting any progress on their application, I doubt my RQ/Citizenship is going to have any progress in the foreseeable future. ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: RQ0712
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 11:39am
Reapplying means the new RQ anyway according to the CIC rules. ------------- Application sent Jan 2011 > In process Feb 2012 > Test & RQ same day Jun 2012 > RQ submitted Aug 2012 > Oath taken Nov 2013 (Montreal) |
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 12:15pm
|
Hi Devon, was this told to you by the call centre agents after your 3 months wait since you last called them after 35 months? or did u receive any thing in mail thru letter ? |
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 12:19pm
|
Thnks for the info asifatt, I am speechless as to what to say of this mess created by CIC. I am wondering why can't the lawyers get together and find clients like us to file a class-action lawsuit against CIC? That way no one person or applicant can be penalised by CIC and also it will give courage to all post test RQ receipents like us courage to come togethr, otherwise each one is scared of facing the burnt from CIC if they try to show their revolt individually. I know Eileen has a grp, but what next after contacting MP's , press etc. It is not moving anywhere this struggle of ours !!!
|
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 12:33pm
I was told 48 months since the got RQ , after there were various numbers
|
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 12:39pm
agree, RQ means RQ at any end even if you renew your PR card having RQ with CIC may end with RQ for PR (I'll send my renewal application this week and will know that for sure
hope not to be soooooooooo "lucky" |
Posted By: Vancan2012
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 1:52pm
|
I think there was a lawyer in GTA who was gathering people of class action that Eileen had posted about some time back. If you are interested in pursuing class action, that lawyer may be for you. ------------- Vancouver S03/12 L03/12 IP11/12 RQ 03/13 XFER 03/13 Currently In Process |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 2:03pm
Devon applied in Aug 2010 RQ in June 2011
|
Posted By: Devon
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 2:06pm
they replied to my email. I think I'm going to call them tomorrow and see what they say..
|
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 2:06pm
I don't believe in lawyers' luck
 to 'defeat' government 'policies and procedures' - too thick wall |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 2:08pm
if you call them too often they see that on your file and I suppose they tell you longer timeframe to suspend your calls for a while
|
Posted By: Devon
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 2:22pm
I used to call CIC once in 2-3 months.. To be honest, it doesn't bother me much anymore..
|
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 2:53pm
|
Hi Devon, Sorry to bother you, but can you please send me e-mail address you used to inquire about your RQ as I am completing 35 months this week and I wish to also start inquiring about the status of my application.
|
Posted By: Devon
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 3:35pm
Just got my ATIP... Nothing has been done since they got received my RQ back in 2011... Just pathetic.. Showed to my "Canadian" boss and we had a good laugh on how pathetic CIC is..
|
Posted By: RobertB
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 4:59pm
|
Hi All, Add me to the list: Applied: Sep. 2010 Test: Jan. 2012 RQ: Jan. 2012 Latest update: called to get the update after 35 month processing time passed. They say they have 3 months to reply. Don't really look forward to any update from them, though. I am seeking to see if they have an office I can write a formal complaint about their unreasonable processing times. Also, they told my MP in August that this person's file will take 35+ months, maximum of 48 months. I am not sure even if that maximum is accurate as I have heard people getting in 17 month queue for judge hearing. That is once their RQ is processed... mine hasn't even got there, yet. ------------- --- We can only do so much. But we gotta do what we gotta do. |
Posted By: waiting4citizenship
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 5:00pm
Same here. Got my ATIP and no work done on the RQ since 2011. It is already 4 years since applied.
...Applied in Dec 2009, RQ in 2011( test day RQ ) |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 6:57pm
It's interesting if CIC will contact you via mail to respond this inquiry by call center, as they did with mine, I was surprised to get mail from CIC , though it was the second inquiry, keep us posted, please. and that mail was reflected in ECAS just right away.
|
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2013 at 12:33am
|
|
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2013 at 9:58am
|
Dear RobertB & waitingfor citicizenship, Identical status with my ATIP report too. No update or movement in the entire application, since they last received the RQ documents in Nov 2011. After that it only shows that I have requested ATIP from them twice this year. Looks like all of us the 2011 RQ receipients are in the same batch, wherein either they have lost our documents or due to some techincal error in their system our files have gone on an indefinite hold of some sort. Ridiculous !!! They gave us only 30 days to submit our RQ documents back and they are taking 3+ yrs to even assign a officer to review it. So far my RQ has'nt evn being assigned to anyone for review. Any ideas what should be our next step? Should we get together and visit the St Clair or Mississauga office to chk on our applications???? |
Posted By: CREPTON
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2013 at 10:12am
|
Hi Rqcadet: The same thing with me. No update at all except some back ground check renewals. The last update 10 months ago. So, the next time they touch the file all the security checks would be expired then they have to go again for another few months to renew it and the circle go and go. I don't know what is the right thing to do. It's easy to be told wait and be patient but when every new landed immigrants are getting their citizenship and I am waiting it make the subject of jokes. I wish there was a reason for the RQ in the first place!!!!! |
Posted By: allyp
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2013 at 1:24pm
|
Looks like post test RQ's (2009-2010) are put on the back bench. I have seen on this forum Pre test RQ's moving to oath within 25 months. But for Post test RQ's, very slow movement and if so, movement for mid - 2009 applicants. For them to start looking at 2010 will take maybe a year more though I hope it gets resolved asap. Is there no way, we can get CIC to give us a firm time period in which they will process our application. Without this, you never know we will be waiting forever......
|
Posted By: dpenabill
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2013 at 1:51pm
There are various activist efforts to address the unreasonable timelines at CIC, which are discussed in a number of topics here. I suspect some of these are having some impact, but how much so is very difficult to ascertain. The ministers (Kenney previously, now Alexander) have acknowledged that processing times are unreasonable and have vowed to pursue remedies to improve processing. How genuine those efforts are, and how successful those so far implemented have been or will be, is still unknown. So far the prognosis is not good. Individuals whose application has been delayed longer than other applicants in similar circumstances may consider consulting with a lawyer to determine if an application for a Writ of Mandamus is warranted. This is of course expensive. Probability of success is low. This too is discussed in some depth in other discussions here. Overall, no, there is no indication whatsoever that Parliament will be amending the Citizenship Act to implement definitive timelines for processing. In the meantime, the timeline for individuals will vary greatly, so there is no way to extrapolate from the experience of others how long any specific applicant's case will take. Even if we knew how long it was taking to process a median number of RQ'd applicants, that would be a very rough indicator only of how long it is likely to take, with little or no indication of how much longer it might be for this or that particular person. Thus, efforts to persuade Parliament, or at least CIC, to further address the unreasonable timelines, are probably better focused on incentives to improve efficiencies and timelines generally, not aimed at legislation or rule changes to impose definitive timelines (again, chances of success for this are remote or non-existent). ------------- Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions. BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 8:32am
------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: Roni
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 9:24am
|
HELP What should I write in "Since your arrival date in Canada. list all countries of which you are, or have been, a citizen or national" EXCEPT MY HOME COUNTRY I AM NOT ANY OTHER COUNTRY CITIZEN, SHOUD I WRITE MY COUNTRY NAME OR N/ATHANKS, ------------- 08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133 |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 9:35am
|
You should write your country of citizenship. They only ask you that question is because some people might carry dual citizenship of must have been citizens of 2 or more countries before they applied for Canada citizenship. ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: Roni
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 10:15am
Thanks, ------------- 08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133 |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 9:12pm
yeeay!! we have to party today  Yamax became a citizen today ------------- landed: May, 2003 applied: Dec04,2009 test/RQ: Feb15,2011 st.clair 2nd RQ: Aug 2014 Total waiting time to oath: 60,5 months :)= 5 years and 14 days oath- Dec , 2014 |
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2013 at 7:28am
Congratulation to ymax :D ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: kfq
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2013 at 8:14am
|
Please add kfq, application Sent sept 2009, received Sept 2009, in process May 2010,RQ May 2012,Test Oct. 2012, St. Clair....... file to CJ
|
Posted By: asifatt
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2013 at 9:51am
This thread is only for applicants who received RQ at test or after test. Please post your timeline in the PRE-RQ applicants thread. Just out of curiosity .. you got your test notice within 4 month of RQ .. do you know the reason or what happened that your file was sent to CJ ? ------------- Received-23/OCT/11 : Location-Oshawa : Office-Scarborough : In-Process-30/JAN/12 : Test-NOV/7/12 : RQ-NOV/7/2012 : RQ processed at ST.Clair Office |
Posted By: kfq
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2013 at 10:08am
| One day in Aug 2013 some CIC officer had called and said that your RQ which we had sent is missing with documents we had submitted but on searching in the box she found it,later after 4 days on calling CIC agent, he had informed you had passed the test and your file has gone to CJ to for decision.During this process they had asked for birth certificates of 2 children(under 18 application submitted toegethar). We submitted the birth certificates taken from our consulate in Toronto because in orignal we only had the name of one only parent.MAYBE because of this or we dont know why the file has gone to CJ . |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2013 at 2:54pm
I think you'll get your oath invitation around November, though your case is something in the middle of pre and post/at test RQ in timeline, hm, interesting, keep us posted ------------- landed: May, 2003 applied: Dec04,2009 test/RQ: Feb15,2011 st.clair 2nd RQ: Aug 2014 Total waiting time to oath: 60,5 months :)= 5 years and 14 days oath- Dec , 2014 |
Posted By: 514MTL
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2013 at 9:23pm
Roni: sorry to post to you here. You have to clean your inbox so I can reply!! ------------- Montreal Office: Applied 08/2011 In process 11/2012 Test 04/17/2013 RQ received 10/2013 RQ sent 11/2013 Oath 02/26/2015 |
Posted By: Roni
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2013 at 10:51pm
Ok thanks, I will . ------------- 08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133 |
Posted By: RQ-Discuss
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 10:59am
|
Hi All
There is an interesting change in my case.
As I sumbitted my RQ along with a large number of valid documents in June 2011, I was not able to submit my CBSA report as I received it later than my submission of RQ. I talked to a lawyer casually who advised me to submit the CBSA report. I sent my CBSA report in the first week of October which has been acknowledged by the St. Clair office writing me a letter:
That they have received my RQ in October 2013, and that the RQ is in the inventory in St. Clair office. (they have not mentioned anywhere that its being reviewed or not)
Then the letter states that in the meantime you renew your valid PR cards.
Besides this my online application status has also been changed to another paragraph similar to the pervious one that:
We send a letter ........................If you have not send your documents etc. etc. .......... please do so.......
I just wanna know what is this means?
Application sent: Nov. 2009,
Test: Jan. 2011 (passed as per ATIP)
RQ: May 2011
RQ sent back: Jun. 2011
Waiting and waiting
------------- Seeking information |
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 11:58am
|
Hey Rq-Discuss, I do not understand from your post that why ST Clair is acknowledging your CBSA report by saying your RQ received in OCT 2013, whereas you actually submitted the completed RQ In June 2011? I hope they do not take your RQ timeline wait period from OCT 2013 instead of June 2011. I suggest please clarify with your lawyer this situation? |
Posted By: Rqcadet
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 12:21pm
|
I hav an update from the MP's office CIC Case Specialist guy, today about the timelines of RQ processing. According to him they are in touch with the Minister's office on daily basis and they can only act on your behalf to check on the status of your application once you have crossed the 36 months from receipt of RQ timeline. According to him the timline for RQ processing currently is between 36- 48 months from receipt of RQ at CIC and not from receipt of application. That timeline posted on line according to him is the Goal they are aiming to achieve of CIC. According to him 35,000 RQ's have been issued. From his talks looks like he meant all these were issued in GTA especially from Mississauga alone because they want to catch Fraudulent applicants. IN short MP's offices are point blank refusing to even take your details down to make an inquiry into your status if you have not completed 36 months from receipt of RQ submission. |
Posted By: EasyRider
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 12:52pm
I hope that's not truth what he's saying.  ------------- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At5U1gEsWR9CdEo1OXNzdDlQR3NGV2Z5YlBQZVJMVXc - Montreal Citizenship Timelines |
Posted By: waiting4citizenship
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 3:53pm
Why are RQs treated like this...36 months to apply for citizenship ,48 months for RQ
,3 years residency, 2 years processing...does this mean 9 years to get citizenship |
Posted By: galactus
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 8:42pm
|
Well, I just received the RQ, just 3 weeks after presenting a perfect exam (20 out of 20) and what I thought was a perfect dossier, the lady who reviewed my passport said nothing. Im really depressed at the moment, can it seriously take 3 more years?... Question about the RQ: do you need to send the original documents? (i.e. the original T4s) or photocopies are ok?
|
Posted By: Marrrrr
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 8:51pm
Sorry to hear about your post-test RQ. I thought that only pre-test RQs are being given nowadays. Do you have any clue what could have been the reason for the RQ? |
Posted By: Justice4B
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 9:11pm
| galactus - you do not need to submit originals; photocopies are fine. Most important to send are the travel records and health (OHIP) records. |
Posted By: Roni
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 9:18pm
|
Finally I sent my rq doc,, for who want to deliver by him self to Montreal office they are not accepting document from applicant , they have phone number on the door you call the company they send you a guy and charge you $ 12,5 which no change answer so you have to pay 15 :))) and he goes up and give you signed receive receipt :))) any way I sent mine and will wait 3 more years, ------------- 08 NOV 2010 A/R-15 SEP 2011 IN PROCESS26 SEP SEND IT TO/1.March 20133 |
Posted By: Justice4B
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 9:40pm
----- "According to him the timeline for RQ processing currently is between 36- 48 months from receipt of RQ at CIC and not from receipt of application" --Hmm.... Rqcadet: The above is a discrepancy from the CIC website which says: "The table below shows the processing time from I am curious as to whether the person calling the CIC Specialist was aware of this discrepancy? It seems CIC is making up the rules now, as they go along. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/cit-processing.asp -
|
Posted By: EasyRider
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 9:49pm
There's no credibility left, they've pulled these numbers from... you know. In https://secure.immigration.ca/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13396&title=cic-cit-processing-stats-q12013-detailed - this report 2012 ends with 24 months processing time nationally, while web site says September 2012 ended with 25 month timeline? There's very little possibility both of these are true. ------------- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At5U1gEsWR9CdEo1OXNzdDlQR3NGV2Z5YlBQZVJMVXc - Montreal Citizenship Timelines |
Posted By: Justice4B
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 9:57pm
| If possible, could someone please clarify if this is related to a MP in Mississauga. My MP is from one of the Mississauga ridings. |
Posted By: Mary Chad
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 10:42pm
|
That was exactly what my MP(Mississauga) office told me, I asked them to query for my application, which they did(My ATIP shows that) and contacted Cic twice for an update, they sent me a letter in writing stating that "RQ processing timeline is 48 months from "RQ issue date" and that is official timeline given to them by Cic itself. ------------- Applied: Mar xx,2011 In Process: Oct xx,2011 Transfer: Nov xx,2011 Test: Jan xx,2012 RQ Received: May xx,2012 RQ Submitted: June xx,2012 Office: Mississauga(Now with St.Clair) Oath: July 17, 2014 |
Posted By: Justice4B
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 10:56pm
|
Seems they are lying, left, right and center! Now, if I were to tweet it, CIC will 'nip & tuck their' website again, like they did in the case of "Urgent processing of CZship" application rule!
|
Posted By: dpenabill
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 11:00pm
It is, no doubt, disappointing, disconcerting, and frustrating to get RQ at any stage of the proceedings, but particularly so after the test. And, indeed, the timeline is both long and unpredictable. How long in the particular case can vary greatly, including depending on which local office it is, why the post-test RQ was issued, and of course on the facts and circumstances, including response to the RQ, in the individual case. Best bet is that yes it is likely to be a long while. While a number of people are trying to follow every twist and turn in current processing results related to how long things are taking, to my view that is in effect an effort to read tea leaves in the dark. It is going to be awhile. Months for sure. Probably more than a year. Perhaps two or three years. For a few even longer. Where a particular individual will come out in that range is nearly impossible to forecast.
The key: follow the instructions, be as accurate as possible, as complete as reasonably possible, and submit it on time. If you cannot obtain all the documentation you want to submit on time, send what you have and note with explanation what you are not including and why not. Generally photocopies should be sent unless an instruction specifically requests the original. But, be sure to follow the instructions in the letter and form you received (probably the same as most here are familiar with, but these things do periodically change). As I recall, the last version of RQ I have seen did not specifically ask for any originals. While health records are suggested, there are other far more important documents to submit in terms of priority, in terms of importance. Foremost: all travel documents, as in all possibly relevant passports, visas, or other travel documents, must be submitted and the failure to submit all these can in itself cause things to be problematic. Second-most important documents are those related to showing place of abode and employment (or alternative activity like school, volunteering, or such), including -- -- direct, objective documents showing place of abode for all months the applicant declares to have been resident in Canada -- CRA Notices of Assessment and other tax documents, like T4s, reflecting employment in Canada, supplemented by other evidence of employment if T4s are not available Beyond those, what else an applicant should submit is a very personal decision. In particular, how much more is a very personal decision. But, for example, if any of those listed above (travel documents; proof of place of abode; CRA NoA and T4s) are missing, or there are gaps in employment, or gaps in the proof of place of residence, the applicant will likely want to include additional alternative documentation -- and focus in particular on any time periods for which there were gaps in the key documentation (such as time during which the applicant cannot show a lease for where the applicant was living in Canada, as one example). By the way, the significance of records indicating the dates health care services were utilized varies significantly from one individual to the next; it would not be unusual for a young, healthy person to have minimal records of this sort, and that is not a problem. On the other hand, for someone with a chronic medical condition that clearly requires frequent medical care, the absence of records to show that care was being obtained in Canada is, of course, a red flag (that could suggest the person may have been obtaining health care outside Canada). Most such things are common sense. ------------- Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions. BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration |
Posted By: galactus
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 11:58am
| No clue at all, which is the most frustrating. I have barely been outside of Canada for 40 days total AT MOST in the past 5 years, which was clear in my passport when I took the test. I started working barely 2 weeks after I first arrived in Canada and I have not been unemployed since, the same for my wife. There are some papers I know I wont be able to gather (i.e. proof I paid my rent in 2008), which stresses me a lot. I find the lack of transparency and the insane times of the whole process simply insulting. |
Posted By: greeny
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 2:01pm
I was said many times about 48 months since RQ DATE RECEIVED , moreover , once I was said not to call until march 14, 2015, and at that time rep said it just spontaneously as if the dated is stated in my file and he just see it. later it was 36 months and the 'add-on' phrase was chameleonic - "since applied" or "since Rq received"for my case it will be 36 months since RQ received in March 2014 , soon yeeh? ------------- landed: May, 2003 applied: Dec04,2009 test/RQ: Feb15,2011 st.clair 2nd RQ: Aug 2014 Total waiting time to oath: 60,5 months :)= 5 years and 14 days oath- Dec , 2014 |
Posted By: dpenabill
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 3:01pm
Not all documents are necessary. If the documents submitted tend to prove that the applicant settled in Canada, lived in Canada, worked in Canada, and was physically present in Canada for the time periods the applicant declared to be in Canada, that will suffice subject, of course, to the influence of any negative factors, if there are any. In other words, the applicant I just described probably has no need to worry much at all about the ultimate outcome. That said, however, there is the question about why RQ was issued. Pre-test RQ may be issued based on a range of relatively technical factors which are merely risk indicators triggering CIC's request for additional information and documentation, and there is not necessarily any reason for suspicion. There may have been a technical reason the post-test RQ was issued, not involving any substantive issue, question, or concern, just a trigger which under current CIC policy results in the issuance of RQ, but my sense is that is less likely than there is something which CIC has perceived to be awry. It could be as simple as CIC having identified a date of entry into Canada not accurately declared in your residency calculation (reminder: passport does not prove all dates of travel, just the dates of travel reflected in the contents of stamps and such in the passport; it does not affirm there was no other travel), based on either a CBSA record or a POE note to your FOSS. I am not suggesting that is why you got RQ, but offering this as some examples among many which could be underlying CIC's decision to issue RQ. It could be a mere coincidence, a residential address in your address history that has just happened to be similar to one used by someone else who was suspected of residency fraud; that would make it a suspect address and that will trigger RQ. It could be that someone at CIC thinks the handwriting on your application or other form filed with CIC, or the signatures on your Identification and application, or the residency calculation, do not appear to be by the same person. There are a myriad of reasons why the RQ was issued. The important thing is to objectively evaluate yourself (being as self-critical as possible), your application, your history, not looking at what makes you qualified but trying to identify anything that could raise an issue. If in doing this, you are satisfied you not only are clearly qualified, but that you appear to be qualified and there is no apparent credibility issue, no need to worry. Do your best to respond appropriately to the RQ and all should go well. If you had a lease, or even if you have proof of payment for some of the time you lived at the same address, that should be sufficient so long as otherwise your information is complete and accurate, and your documentation otherwise consists of all relevant travel documents, plus CRA Notices of Assessment and T4s for all years you reported as resident in Canada, plus lease and proof of payment (or documentation of ownership) as to your place of actual abode for all other months you reported residing in Canada, plus a significant amount of other documentation corroborating ties to Canada (ranging from spouse's employment and presence to health care records, dentist visits, other activities -- no need to go overbroad). That is, as long as there is only a relatively small gap in the proof of place of abode, and there is proof of being employed at a location in Canada for that period of time, and the rest of the proof adequately covers place of abode and place of employment for all the rest of the time period, and there are no inconsistencies, troubling incongruities, suspicious circumstances, apparent evasiveness or deception, things should go OK. While others here may give the impression that CIC is engaged in a draconian campaign to thwart the citizenship plans of qualified applicants, I truly believe that is not the case, that CIC is generally liberal and CJs often generous in how they assess applicants, even though, yes, the RQ process itself constitutes a major intrusion, inconvenience, and delay; that is, the ultimate outcome is not much at risk for anyone who has a reasonable amount of documentation to back up their information. For CIC, the RQ process is largely a process of verification, and only if and when CIC actually perceives, almost always based on substantive reasons, that the applicant is not qualified or has not accurately disclosed all absences, does it turn adversarial and more difficult. There are exceptions. The failure to present all travel documents tends to result in CIC becoming adversarial, and thus if for whatever reason CIC perceives that an applicant has used some alternative travel documents which have not been disclosed and presented, that is enough to tip the process into a more adversarial mode even if there are not overt indications the applicant has failed to disclose all travel. Among other examples, some applicants who leave Canada for an extended time after applying appear to be targeted for a more adversarial process. But, again, if you came to Canada, settled in Canada, and have been living and working in Canada as you describe, and submit a reasonably complete response to the RQ, the odds are very, very good you will not run into much difficulty other than the inconvenience of RQ and the delay it causes, no serious risk of an unfavourable outcome. ------------- Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions. BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration |
Posted By: Justice4B
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 4:00pm
|
galactus, Although this is a handbook for CIC referral, it is open for public viewing. I think it is a good info source for RQ recipients, and for those preparing to file for Citizenship. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/cp/cp05-eng.pdf - This is also an updated link (September 2013) listing the different OBs & OMs: http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/RESOURCES/manuals/index.asp - I hope you find this post useful.
|
Posted By: dpenabill
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 4:09pm
|
Caution: CP 5 "Residence" is out-of-date, and is particularly so in regards to the risk indicators or reasons for questioning residency, as well as the assessment of residency. CIC is not updating this Operational Manual and is not publicly publishing OB 407 (which includes instructions to amend CP 5), although portions of OB 407 have been disclosed publicly in response to ATI requests. OB 407 modifies CIC's approach to residency and RQ in many very substantial respects. ------------- Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions. BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration |
Posted By: galactus
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 4:13pm
| dpenabill: thanks a lot. Im trying to get my RQ as bulletproof as possible. Now that I think of it, there was actually an "error" with my application: for each travel, the woman re-calculated the numbers spent adding 1. That is because the way I calculated the absence days was : exit_date - entry_date, which (debatable) underestimates each travel by one day. (i.e. if you enter the united states january the 20th and exit january the 21th, you should count 2 days of absence, but I I calculated only 1, the dates were correct, tho). The woman corrected my 3 trips that way (for a grand total of 3 extra days of absence!). My wife had the same issue, but she had 6 trips, therefore 6 extra days. We were still way far from a problematic number of absence days, but that is seriously the only thing that I can think could have triggered the RQ automatically. *sigh* |
Posted By: galactus
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2013 at 4:31pm
| (However, the dates/absence days issue makes no much sense, since I actually used the Residence Calculator from CIC to calculate those days, yet still the woman who reviewed my application seemed to correct that) |