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tgchi13
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We needed a signed letter from my new employer when I changed jobs, That was prior to sponsor approval though. I don't know what would be the case had I received sponsor approval prior to changing employers. |
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Mrs.Sam
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I can explain Employment Insurance because I'm on Maternity Leave right now, but I have no idea about Welfare.
Employment Insurance (EI) is where Canadian workers pay premiums of 1.73% of insured earnings in return for benefits if they lose their jobs. Employers contribute 1.4 times the value of employee premiums. EI also pays for maternity and parental leave, compassionate care leave, and illness coverage. The program also pays for retraining programs (EI Part II) through labour market agreements with the Canadian provinces. The amount a person receives (from experience I can tell you in Alberta the maximum weekly income you can receive is $447/week before taxes regardless of how much you make over $48,048/yr) and how long they can stay on EI varies with their previous salary, how long they were working (you have to have a minimum amount of hours worked to qualify), and the unemployment rate in their area. The EI system is managed by Service Canada, a service delivery network reporting to the Minister of Human Resources and Social Development Canada.
A bit over half of EI benefits are paid in Ontario and the Western provinces but EI is especially important in the Atlantic provinces, which have higher rates of unemployment. Many Atlantic workers are also employed in seasonal work such as fishing, forestry or tourism and go on EI over the winter when there is no work. There are special rules for fishermen making it easier for them to collect EI.
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job_seeker
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Thanks Mrs Sam. Now all I have to do is wait for is for somebody to explain "welfare" and how can one avail of it?
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Mrs.Sam
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Sure mitamata.... IF you include it they will look at it. lol
Today I was advised point blank.... YOU DO NOT NEED TO SUBMIT AN OPTION C if you are just sponsoring your spouse. I guess I should have got the CIC Call Center Agent's ID Number lol.
I think applicants should submit as much supporting information as they can. Better too much, then too little. After all who wants to be Declined?
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mitamata
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Unfortunately, CIC agents don't always give the most reliable information. I honestly can't say if this is the case here, I've not heard of anyone having issues for not submitting Option C, but better to be safe than sorry, right? :)
EI doesn't count as welfare because it's... well, it's insurance. You had to pay the insurance premium sort to speak (the employer deducts it from the paycheck), so you're entitled to it if you qualify. I can't say about welfare (social assistance is a better term), I've only been in Canada for a few months, so don't know the details. I do know for example that student loans aren't it. You might be able to get more information here: http://www.canadabenefits.gc.ca/[email protected]?lang=eng&geo=5 |
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dpenabill
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It has been awhile, but I have indeed seen reports of people getting requests for the option C if they failed to include it.
The problem with CIC call centre responses is sometimes akin to the problem with polls -- how the question was asked, and how it was interpreted, can have a significant impact on the answer given. In this instance: yes, indeed, it is absolutely true, an option C may not be necessary. A sponsor may be approved to sponsor a spouse even if they did not submit an option C. BUT that does not mean an application to sponsor will be approved if the sponsor does not submit an option C and fails to give an adequate explanation for not submitting an option C. But, again, in previous discussions in the previous rendition of this forum, there were reports of delays pending requests for the option C in the CPC-M phase. The information regarding employment is relevant for a spousal sponsorship in ways other than to prove income. So, either submit the option C OR submit an explanation of why it CANNOT be included. |
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Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions.
BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration |
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tgchi13
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One does not want to avail themselves to welfare/social assistance. It will disqualify the sponsor. |
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idriss
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Thanks alot of the replies.
When I sent my application I sent them my T4 slip for the last year (2008). I made more than enough than they require, but if I get laid off. do I call them to let them know?, I can show them T4 of this year which we get in January. thanks alot |
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hbwpg
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Thanks for the clarification! That is what I was sure of too, but was intending to ask and be on the safe side when I call them today.
And yes, to the poster who said knowledge is power, nary a truer word has been said.
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hbwpg
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This is an *excellent* summary of EI, Mrs.Sam. It can be confusing to people and you laid it out perfectly.
And indeed, those on the East Coast rely on EI for at least half of the year. I went on EI after a death in the family so I could get back on my feet and received about 1300 a month. It wasn't stellar, but it certainly helped me when I needed it the most.
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