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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote canvis2006 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 4:16pm
The expediting process for PR Card is for renewals of PR Cards.

Not for first-time issue of PR Cards for landing immigrants. It is taking about 42 days or so for newly arriving PR's to receive their cards, though I think its more of a 2-3 months process.

There is a huge backlog at CPC Sydney, partly due to layoffs earlier in March where they laid off about 150 casual/temporary employees which resulted in backlogs and slow processing of PR Cards and Citizenship applications.

Things are very slow at CPC Sydney....thanks to conservative govt..
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Hi

Originally posted by dpenabill dpenabill wrote:

Despite your being asked to show your PR card, I am still very confident that a PR in possession of a valid passport from the U.S. or the UK (or another visa-exempt country) will be allowed to board an aircraft destined for Canada even though they do not have their PR card in possession -- just as any other UK citizen or American citizen would be allowed to board the aircraft upon displaying their passport.

Commercial carriers are obligated to assure their passengers possess a travel document authorizing travel to Canada, not any particular travel document. So, again, an American passport suffices since it is a travel document authorizing travel to Canada.



One exception, an airline doesn't have to board you if you are traveling on a one-way ticket and you don't have proof of your residency status.
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an airline doesn't have to board you ?

THEY WILL NOT let you get on board. will not... I have experience of this...NOT NICE . trust me very stressful...
the airline is bound by rules.
IN my case LUFTHANSA were very nice to me and went out of their way to help me...
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the airlines would NOT accept EVEN a photo copy of document either
IT HAS TO BE THE ORIGINAL....
the airline lets you go out but it is on the way BACK THAT YOU HAVE PROBLEMS...you cant get on plane unless you have the right to be there.

it also is similar to some people who are put back on the next plane again.. I have seen that happen to some one on UK TV prog..
it would be interesting to hear from those who have been threatened with that at the airport by the POE I O
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Hi PMM,

What proof can be used in lieu of PR Card then?
I understand it's all about getting to POE, because CBSA has access to FOSS to verify statuses.
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Yes it's all true, though lets not forget that when travelling with a visa-exempt country passport and without a PR card, the commercial carrier staff at registering may reject someone if travelling with no return ticket. I'm not sure for USA, but in European countries this happens.
 
Originally posted by dpenabill dpenabill wrote:

Despite your being asked to show your PR card, I am still very confident that a PR in possession of a valid passport from the U.S. or the UK (or another visa-exempt country) will be allowed to board an aircraft destined for Canada even though they do not have their PR card in possession -- just as any other UK citizen or American citizen would be allowed to board the aircraft upon displaying their passport.

Commercial carriers are obligated to assure their passengers possess a travel document authorizing travel to Canada, not any particular travel document. So, again, an American passport suffices since it is a travel document authorizing travel to Canada.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sami55 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 9:59am
sorry   I must clarify that the photocopy document I am refering to is not PR.....( I have not got my PR yet )

so I dont want to mislead anyone..

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The variables are many. They often are. Some factors are indeed quite likely to increase the risk of potential problems.

One way tickets may very well be problematic, particularly for some airlines, or from certain countries, though I suspect that again it is not so much a matter of Canadian PRs being subjected to more stringent requirements than non-PRs, but a policy applying to any and all citizens respectively. Again, this probably depends on the particular airline involved, the country of origin, and other factors. (Airlines retain a great deal of discretion to deny boarding to a passenger, particularly on international flights, for reasons which may be significantly broader in scope than the particular "travel documents" requirements imposed by the destination country. This is usually a question for the airline, not CBSA, not CIC for sure.)

But if the ticket is a return portion of a round trip ticket, that is not a one-way ticket.

But, in any event, I understood the query underlying this discussion involved a U.S. citizen booked for a return flight to Canada from the U.S. The likelihood of a problem in that scenario is remote.

But yeah, there can be complicating factors which increase the risk of a problem. For someone who has changed their name due to marriage, and that name change is reflected relative to their Canadian records but not for their U.S. passport, and in the meantime they have booked the flight under their changed name . . . their U.S. passport will not get them on board the plane . . . but then it would not have gotten them on the plane bound for the U.S. either.

Among other scenarios.

But, again, a U.S. citizen who is a Canadian PR, should be able to book and fly round trip to the States and back to Canada without running into problems due to not having their PR card in possession.





Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions.



BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration
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