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vbpatel
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Posted: 10 Aug 2010 at 9:14am |
As we see everybody is unhappy & frustrated about CIC & Govt. working system but still We all desperately waiting to become PR & after that Citizen, so got a thought in mind to start a new thread to know.. “ WHAT ARE THE TOP REASONS THAT YOU WANT TO BE PR OR CANADIAN CITIZEN? “ Edited by vbpatel - 10 Aug 2010 at 3:36pm |
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dpenabill
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Well, first, I am not unhappy nor frustrated with CIC. Not unhappy with or frustrated about the Canadian government. I come from a country to which, in contrast, Canada is more or less (recognizing that there are some flaws) a dream come true. Really.
I should also acknowledge that I am not waiting to become a PR. I have been a PR for more than a year and a half now. I became a PR pretty much on schedule, on a reasonable time line. I am waiting to become a Citizen. I am looking forward to becoming a Canadian citizen. Very much so! Why? There are way too many reasons to go into much detail in one post. Let me say this: I was reluctant to seek PR status, let alone citizenship, for a long time despite the amount of time I was spending in Canada, despite the increasing ties I had to Canada, but in full recognition of the taxation disadvantages I would incur if I did become a bona fide resident of Canada. My reason were selfish. I could (or at least had been allowed to) spend lots and lots of time in this wonderful country, without having to "settle down" here and pay the kind of taxes a country like this needs to impose in order to function. I preferred the American approach: pay as little as possible, take as advantage as much as possible. Things change. Circumstances change. Attitudes at the border have been changing. It was either stop spending so much time in Canada or make it official. OK. My then gf decided she really wanted me around (sometimes she suggests she might think differently these days), so she married me and sponsored me. I said "yes" as in "I do" and now I am, as in I am paying a lot, lot more in taxes. But, in the meantime I have had time to reflect on the whole thing, on the context, on what it means to be a Canadian, and what it means to pay for being a Canadian. And, despite the thousands of dollars more it takes out of my pocket, yeah, really yeah I am happy to be a PR, I am very much tickled to be living in Canada, really living in Canada, and looking forward to the day I can become a Canadian citizen. I have entertained the prospect of living in a number of place in the world. Canada is the only one I would consider as the place I really want to say to "I live there," and for sure the only other country in the world I would like to become a citizen of. For me, "this is the place,", no doubt about it. |
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happytaz
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Hi,
The reasons why I'm now a Canadian citizen : #1 : I love Canada enough to consider It is my new home. #2 : I sometime felt that being a PR is being a 2nd class citizen. (i.e federal/provincial jobs are given in priority to Canadian citizen, at the airport/customs/immigration you have to do the lineup with tourists for hours....). #3 : No need to renew the PR card. it's an hassle because CIC is too slow to process the applications. Plus you have to pay for it each time. #4 : My future children and I will have the same citizenship. # 5 : If one day my parents get sick I can leave Canada without being worried it will jeopardize my PR status ( or any other event which will make me leave the country). #6 : I can go to the States without being considered as a threat. Edited by happytaz - 10 Aug 2010 at 6:20pm |
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canvis2006
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Agree with Happytaz on those,plus:
-to have and be entitled to being treated as a human being with rights -Freedom to visit EU without applying for visas,avoid documentation -No worry of not being able to get back to Canada safely -Visiting US I won't need to be fingerprinted and registered under nseers -Access to federal govt jobs -be a citizen of one of the most resourceful and diverse countries of the world -no need for status renewal or deal with immigration (quickly out of airport/customs) |
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vbpatel
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Great going guys somewhat same as MY thoughts.. want to add some more..
# right to speak
# right to reject doing something forcefuly
# funny but true.. when you go backhome you will be treated as special. lol
# medical benifits
# retirement benifits even if you didnt work in canada!!
# no need to bribe anybody to get your work done
# your kids school fees & other benifits will be paid by govt. for fixed years
Edited by vbpatel - 10 Aug 2010 at 8:01pm |
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m1005
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If the purpose of this thread was to get some criticism in, here you are. I can understand and agree with many items above, but disagree with some other.
"#2 : I sometime felt that being a PR is being a 2nd class citizen" - never felt this in Canada, even before getting PR "#4 : My future children and I will have the same citizenship" - for citizens of most of countries this happens anyway regardless of place of birth "#6 : I can go to the States without being considered as a threat" - not true. They will consider anybody a threat, including their own citizens, based primarily on origin, religion etc. "Access to federal govt jobs" - would never come to a foreign country for that "be a citizen of one of the most resourceful and diverse countries of the world" - doubtful "# funny but true.. when you go backhome you will be treated as special. lol" - well, in some countries it would not be beneficial at all, not only in relations with authorities, but I would hesitate to disclose the fact of the 2nd citizenship to friends and even to some relatives. Bad for employment too, nothing to be much proud of. "# medical benefits" - extremely doubtful (and not related to citizenship) "# retirement benefits" - extremely doubtful (and not related to citizenship) "# your kids school fees & other benifits will be paid by govt. for fixed years" - very doubtful (and not related to citizenship) |
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Shan786
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Edited by Shan786 - 12 Aug 2010 at 1:23am |
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happytaz
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m1005,
I have a question for you : Do you like Canada ? In have a doubt when I read your answer. Everybody has his/her reason to choose or not to be a PR or a citizen. The reasons I gave are based on my life/situation. There is no good, bad or doubtful answer. For example : My boyfriend is Canadian (borned in Canada). We are planning to have kids soon. I know this sounds weird but it is really important for me that my kids and I have the same citizenship. In this case 2 citizenships since my birth country accept dual citizenships. Yeah it's not a question of life and death but still it is important for me. Another example about federal jobs : I did not plan to move to Canada to work for the government. However their are very interesting job opportunities with the federal & provincial governments. You can't blame immigrants to apply for these jobs mainly if it is related to their education. I like this thread. It is very interesting. |
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vbpatel
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m1005 I guess you didnt read the question! it's PR & Citizenship.. if you read that before you would save your time in pointing out many things as mistakes.. lol nevermind there is always a next time.. |
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vbpatel
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well that has reasons... don't want to mention here due to diplomatic reason.. I might dont need to mention if you remember 911..
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