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welcome back Jahmour, enjoy the weather while u can.

Valt, i like how smoothly things went for you, but true mi nuh have nuh sister that work a bank, yuh think the process will be as easy for me and my family when we try to open an account? did yr sis have to do anything special or was it just as if you were another customer?

Jahgee, u doin ok girl? juss a check pon yuh.

everybaddy else, big up unuhself.

Applied Nov 2007, Docs Request Nov 2008, Medical & Proof of Funds Mar 2009, PR Granted Oct 2009, Landed June 2010.

Wishing for a better Jamaica.

I hope everyone is well and enjoying this Christmas week. I am just going to a few the last minute Christmas parties, not doing any decorating or shopping. Just alot of cleaning, but with Canada in mind.

Just 2 more week before school reopens, so I am resting up as much as I can. Have a great week peeps!

Applied - Jan 4th 2007
AOR - Jan 6th 2007
Docs Req. - March 24th 2009
Docs Submitted - May 11th 2009
Waiting .........

God Is Good!

Good Morning All. I am on vacation - which is the way it should be at this time of year. I am not going to be doing any heavy shopping for Christmas - just a little token for the children. I wanted one thing for Christmas and since nobody never called me for the medicals or to turn in my passport - its highly unlikely now i'll get the PR stamp in my passport so i will duly wait until March 2010 for the fulfillment of that one.

God is Good all the time - in every thing remember the less fortunate even those amongst us. Can you imagine working for an entire year and for a couple days we stop, spend some quality time with the family and friends that are dear to us and reflect on the birth of Jesus and the significance in our lives.

I just love that the season takes the edge off everything. Trini folks if you haven't heard we are going to be heavily taxed next year - from a pin to an anchor even salt. But to God be the glory that in the midst of all of that God is amongst us and he will provide.

Four Days till christmas.

Applied Jan 11th 2007
Request for doc 0608
Request for updated doc 0509
Submitted updated docs 0609
Applied Express Entry 25.11.15
OINP interest 27.11.15
Everything in God's time.......

Splashyy, why is that, that this new taxation has come about?

We are supposed to have a 'new' property tax as well to come into effect, once it is passed next year as well....

Applied 6 Jul 2007
AOR 07 Sep 2007
Request for updated Docs Mar 2012
Throat Severed and Cessation of file established on 6th July, 2012.

Hello Folks,

How are we all doing?Those on vacation,please do have fun and keep safe,those of us at home too,lets try enjoy the season and be safe also.

I read this info on another forum a couple of minutes ago and i just thought to myself that it might be a helpful info for someone else too.

Hence you can just read and let it help you to know how to navigate your plans,remember God's word which says,"My people perish for lack of Knowledge",so lets appropriate this info for our own benefit.

Hi friends,

I had been contemplating to write this for quite sometime. There are many of us who are over-enthusiastically positive & similarly many, who think poorly of the Canadian job market. And there are quite a few of us who are thinking to go or not to, given the enormous waiting time on this immigration process, by which time we already get well settled in our homeland. But, are we?

I have replied this to many who PMed me directly and in another thread here as well. Now plz bear with me for posting it seperately, for the betterment of all friends. I hope I'll not be bashed upon for this long write-up.

Buddies, in regard to our job scenario (FSW w/out AEO) in Canada, if we plan as per below, we'll sail thru satisfactorily. It's not whether we think good or bad abt it, it's more abt our understanding of the Job Process for a New Immigrant & how we address it, take precautions & manage our settlement well, now that we are positively thinking of moving. Our jobs in Canada, post landing, shall come under 3 stages:

Stage-1. 'Survival Jobs':
The moment we land [whatever city we chose], we must catch-on any opportunity that may arrive. At this stage, we must importantly keep our Ego at home. The idea is to safeguard the 'landing funds' and plan our regular expenses on any vocation based earnings. At this stage, it'll be potent to be frugile. Cut costs at all angles & get our daily meals thru whatever job that we can take. This is the most important phase of our newcomer life in Canada. If we can plan it well, we'll avoid the 'josh story', else depression shall set-in. In this phase, I might be a IT proff, an Engr, a Doctor, whatever, or of any age bracket... I'd do well to take a job as a FedEx Helper, DtoD Salesman, MacDonald Teamer, Night Watchman, Office Boy etc.
!-Stage Criteria: Whatever our homeland profession be, take any job to start earning.
!-Remember: Till now No one knows us & No one is bothered abt us.
!-Job Search: No further search, till we get settled in this present vocation.
!-Timeframe: 0-3 months.

Stage-2. 'Tertiary Jobs':
Now we are fairy aware of the city & the Canadian concepts. This is the time to foray into our 2nd job. Start seraching, but remember that it'll not be an actual 'job hunting' yet. In this phase, due to our awarness, we might land into an Ok job, which'll be better than the survival stage. But we are still not into our choice occupation. Again it should be taken as a challenge & pursue a job that will increase our earnings from the previous one. We may not yet be satisfied with what we are doing, but shall start some savings hereon. That'll get reflected in our bank a/cs. We are actually now building our credit history, an important thing that'll hold us in good stead later. Some of the Tertiary Jobs can be Office Assistant, Hypermarket Cashier/Teller, Warehouse Assistant, Industrial Labour Controller, Store Keeper, Security Officer/Supervisor, Courier Deliveryman etc. All of these being higher paid than minimum wages.
!-Stage Criteria: Try & get a better paid job than the previous. Any field. Complete all PR documentation.
!-Remember: We are still in our nascent stage. No one yet cares abt us.
!-Job Search: Yes, keep looking. Classifieds, Online, HR Agents, Networking, Prospective Employer visits etc.
!-Timeframe: 3-6 months.

Stage-3. 'Intermediate Jobs':
By now we have smartenned up. We are no more a novice. We have developed our links. Bank position is OK. Probably, the 'landing funds' is still not fiully depleted. Our networking & friend circle has started paying. Thus, hereon we shall, most likely, get our 'first satisfactory job'. Something in our related field. No, not yet what we actually have been doing in our homeland, but in the same department. The idea is to land a job within our specialty field. Eg. if I'm a IT professional, I'll get a job in the IT dept. of a company, as a first-level operator or a team leader (if I'm lucky). If I'm an Engr. I'll be landing the job of a technician in the engineering dept of a company. If I'm an Accountant, I'll catch hold of a Asst. Bookkeeper's task, or a financial data entry operator, or a departmental assistant. The combinations can be many. The requirement is, now start building your career. Opportunities shall commence.
!-Stage Criteria: Land a job in your related field. The designation be anything, be much lower -but must be taken.
!-Remember: Ppl will start knowing us in our field & thus professional growth is imminent.
!-Job Search: Full-fledged 'job hunting'. This hunting now is in our choice occupation.
!-Timeframe: 6-12 months.

Friends, hereafter we will most likely, be in our selected field of work. And we'll be aware of the job market within our profession. Hereon, we'll know what to look for & where to look for. Thus, can apply for jobs smartly & keep growing satisfactorily. It is expected that after a yr at Canada, we should be able to establish ourselves nicely. Be professionally motivated and quite possibly grow well into our Canadian settlement process.

Job hunting, obviously will continue until we are self-satisfied. But man... we have arrived... & arrived well ! In a couple of yrs we'll be sailing in our Original Position, that we left in our homeland. And remember, we'd be still earning better than before, even if the routine costs are higher in Canada. Our margins will be much higher too. Unless we really goof-up, in 2-3 yrs time we'll be calling the shots.

A thing to remember is that, since our 2nd stage, we should start developing our skills, by way of gaining qualifications/certifications to enhance our selected profession. As most occupations like IT, Accounts, Engineering etc. will not get us a job of that field, unless we have a Canadian Recognized Certificate. The only exception is of Doctors, who might face tremendous difficulty due to the 4 yrs. requirement of Canadian Medical studies.

The above 3 phases is also important to gain a Canadian Experience. Something we cannot do without if we want to succeed in our professions. The previous jobs can be anything, but when we try to apply for a job in our field the employers will always ask/look for a Canadian Experience. They wouldn't bother what we did, but will want an "employer's reference". This is to see our employability & people management skills. And we can't blame them as well, 'coz they need to doubly ensure that who they are employing is of 'good standing', as they have no clue of our occupations/designations in our homeland. It reminds me to advice, to do good in those previous Canadian jobs. 'Coz, we'll need those employer's references, whether in writing (best to take) or telephonically by the next employer.

Plz note that in some cases the 1st & 2nd stages may be interlinked. Some may get promoted within the 1st stage itself & thus avoid/require a seperate 2nd stage. While there are also many situations/actual cases where some PRs have settled-down well in their Tertiary Occupations itself. There is this case of an Electrical Engineer, who carried-on with his Warehouse Supervisor's job and settled down as businessman of 'Custom Bonded Warehouses' forever. There are scores of other examples.

I hope the foregoing shall lead to a proper understanding of our job-worth, vis-a-vis our aspirations in Canada. And help us to get hold of ourselves in a timeframe wise & market scenario wise assimilation of what, when and how to settle ourselves in this new found homeland. [I have deliberately avoided the Credit History & House Building scenarios, 'coz this post is directed to job market only].

Thanks & all the best to everyone !

Capt. Stan Dutta
(Member: Canadian Society of Industrial Security)

When God is in it, there is no limit. So it's not over until God says so.

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Jahmour Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Junior Member Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 116	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jahmour Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 12:14pm
	Hey ma peeps! What's up? Let me not ask I can see for myself. I'm in Jamaica..mi hot! Too much heat! LOL Didn't believe I would be saying 'Jamaica in Christmas is too hot'.Think I've gotten use to the -3 degrees already. Lata guys..Let no one sway your minds from a decision you have prayed about!!

A_Yardie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Average Member Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 225	Post Options Post Reply Quote A_Yardie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 12:16pm
	welcome back Jahmour, enjoy the weather while u can. Valt, i like how smoothly things went for you, but true mi nuh have nuh sister that work a bank, yuh think the process will be as easy for me and my family when we try to open an account? did yr sis have to do anything special or was it just as if you were another customer? Jahgee, u doin ok girl? juss a check pon yuh. everybaddy else, big up unuhself.
	Applied Nov 2007, Docs Request Nov 2008, Medical & Proof of Funds Mar 2009, PR Granted Oct 2009, Landed June 2010. Wishing for a better Jamaica.

lonelycanadianwifey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Member Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Status: Offline Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote lonelycanadianwifey Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 8:59pm
	Jahmour yuh kno seh mi nuh seh nuttin.....but wah yuh a deal wid ???? To hott....mi a bawl fi deh hotness...so it goes Collllllld like nuttin woiiiii..yuh see mi Edited by lonelycanadianwifey - 21 Dec 2009 at 2:49pm
	"Deh only fren weh mi love is deh one up above...Keep him closer den a rope twist" "JaH vInCi"

msbb97 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Junior Member Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Location: Trinidad Status: Offline Points: 148	Post Options Post Reply Quote msbb97 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2009 at 6:44am
	I hope everyone is well and enjoying this Christmas week. I am just going to a few the last minute Christmas parties, not doing any decorating or shopping. Just alot of cleaning, but with Canada in mind. Just 2 more week before school reopens, so I am resting up as much as I can. Have a great week peeps!
	Applied - Jan 4th 2007 AOR - Jan 6th 2007 Docs Req. - March 24th 2009 Docs Submitted - May 11th 2009 Waiting ......... God Is Good!

charles45 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: Trinidad Status: Offline Points: 480	Post Options Post Reply Quote charles45 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2009 at 9:08am
	Greetings to all, Just saying hello, Have a good day
	Applied 6 Jul 2007 AOR 07 Sep 2007 Request for updated Docs Mar 2012 Throat Severed and Cessation of file established on 6th July, 2012.

Splashyy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Average Member Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 287	Post Options Post Reply Quote Splashyy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2009 at 9:48am
	Good Morning All. I am on vacation - which is the way it should be at this time of year. I am not going to be doing any heavy shopping for Christmas - just a little token for the children. I wanted one thing for Christmas and since nobody never called me for the medicals or to turn in my passport - its highly unlikely now i'll get the PR stamp in my passport so i will duly wait until March 2010 for the fulfillment of that one. God is Good all the time - in every thing remember the less fortunate even those amongst us. Can you imagine working for an entire year and for a couple days we stop, spend some quality time with the family and friends that are dear to us and reflect on the birth of Jesus and the significance in our lives. I just love that the season takes the edge off everything. Trini folks if you haven't heard we are going to be heavily taxed next year - from a pin to an anchor even salt. But to God be the glory that in the midst of all of that God is amongst us and he will provide. Four Days till christmas.
	Applied Jan 11th 2007 Request for doc 0608 Request for updated doc 0509 Submitted updated docs 0609 Applied Express Entry 25.11.15 OINP interest 27.11.15 Everything in God's time.......

Putus45 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Average Member Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 185	Post Options Post Reply Quote Putus45 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2009 at 10:42am
	Good morning to all my forum family and hope this will be a blessed day for all. My machine was out from Thursday afternoon being worked on, hence just responding and have no computer access at home. Thanks again for all the birthday wishes and hope you all had a great week-end. Splashy: Enjoy your vacation and have fun. Yeahyeah: Have fun Jahmour: Welcome home and enjoy the warmth. Have a blessed day all.
	God is good all the time and He is an on time God.

charles45 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: Trinidad Status: Offline Points: 480	Post Options Post Reply Quote charles45 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2009 at 10:45am
	Splashyy, why is that, that this new taxation has come about? We are supposed to have a 'new' property tax as well to come into effect, once it is passed next year as well....
	Applied 6 Jul 2007 AOR 07 Sep 2007 Request for updated Docs Mar 2012 Throat Severed and Cessation of file established on 6th July, 2012.

A_Yardie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Average Member Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 225	Post Options Post Reply Quote A_Yardie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2009 at 11:21am
	morning to everybody, how things? splashyy, enjoy the vacation, yuh will get a belated xmas present next year by easter, nuh worry. good to hear that our prime minister has decided to review the recent tax package that has been announced. the country is in a bad spot and i'm unsure if taxation is really the answer to our woes. look out for the extra traffic and take care of yuhselves... likkle more.
	Applied Nov 2007, Docs Request Nov 2008, Medical & Proof of Funds Mar 2009, PR Granted Oct 2009, Landed June 2010. Wishing for a better Jamaica.

aner777 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Average Member Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Location: Jamaica Status: Offline Points: 204	Post Options Post Reply Quote aner777 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2009 at 11:31am
	Hello Folks, How are we all doing?Those on vacation,please do have fun and keep safe,those of us at home too,lets try enjoy the season and be safe also. I read this info on another forum a couple of minutes ago and i just thought to myself that it might be a helpful info for someone else too. Hence you can just read and let it help you to know how to navigate your plans,remember God's word which says,"My people perish for lack of Knowledge",so lets appropriate this info for our own benefit. Hi friends, I had been contemplating to write this for quite sometime. There are many of us who are over-enthusiastically positive & similarly many, who think poorly of the Canadian job market. And there are quite a few of us who are thinking to go or not to, given the enormous waiting time on this immigration process, by which time we already get well settled in our homeland. But, are we? I have replied this to many who PMed me directly and in another thread here as well. Now plz bear with me for posting it seperately, for the betterment of all friends. I hope I'll not be bashed upon for this long write-up. Buddies, in regard to our job scenario (FSW w/out AEO) in Canada, if we plan as per below, we'll sail thru satisfactorily. It's not whether we think good or bad abt it, it's more abt our understanding of the Job Process for a New Immigrant & how we address it, take precautions & manage our settlement well, now that we are positively thinking of moving. Our jobs in Canada, post landing, shall come under 3 stages: Stage-1. 'Survival Jobs': The moment we land [whatever city we chose], we must catch-on any opportunity that may arrive. At this stage, we must importantly keep our Ego at home. The idea is to safeguard the 'landing funds' and plan our regular expenses on any vocation based earnings. At this stage, it'll be potent to be frugile. Cut costs at all angles & get our daily meals thru whatever job that we can take. This is the most important phase of our newcomer life in Canada. If we can plan it well, we'll avoid the 'josh story', else depression shall set-in. In this phase, I might be a IT proff, an Engr, a Doctor, whatever, or of any age bracket... I'd do well to take a job as a FedEx Helper, DtoD Salesman, MacDonald Teamer, Night Watchman, Office Boy etc. !-Stage Criteria: Whatever our homeland profession be, take any job to start earning. !-Remember: Till now No one knows us & No one is bothered abt us. !-Job Search: No further search, till we get settled in this present vocation. !-Timeframe: 0-3 months. Stage-2. 'Tertiary Jobs': Now we are fairy aware of the city & the Canadian concepts. This is the time to foray into our 2nd job. Start seraching, but remember that it'll not be an actual 'job hunting' yet. In this phase, due to our awarness, we might land into an Ok job, which'll be better than the survival stage. But we are still not into our choice occupation. Again it should be taken as a challenge & pursue a job that will increase our earnings from the previous one. We may not yet be satisfied with what we are doing, but shall start some savings hereon. That'll get reflected in our bank a/cs. We are actually now building our credit history, an important thing that'll hold us in good stead later. Some of the Tertiary Jobs can be Office Assistant, Hypermarket Cashier/Teller, Warehouse Assistant, Industrial Labour Controller, Store Keeper, Security Officer/Supervisor, Courier Deliveryman etc. All of these being higher paid than minimum wages. !-Stage Criteria: Try & get a better paid job than the previous. Any field. Complete all PR documentation. !-Remember: We are still in our nascent stage. No one yet cares abt us. !-Job Search: Yes, keep looking. Classifieds, Online, HR Agents, Networking, Prospective Employer visits etc. !-Timeframe: 3-6 months. Stage-3. 'Intermediate Jobs': By now we have smartenned up. We are no more a novice. We have developed our links. Bank position is OK. Probably, the 'landing funds' is still not fiully depleted. Our networking & friend circle has started paying. Thus, hereon we shall, most likely, get our 'first satisfactory job'. Something in our related field. No, not yet what we actually have been doing in our homeland, but in the same department. The idea is to land a job within our specialty field. Eg. if I'm a IT professional, I'll get a job in the IT dept. of a company, as a first-level operator or a team leader (if I'm lucky). If I'm an Engr. I'll be landing the job of a technician in the engineering dept of a company. If I'm an Accountant, I'll catch hold of a Asst. Bookkeeper's task, or a financial data entry operator, or a departmental assistant. The combinations can be many. The requirement is, now start building your career. Opportunities shall commence. !-Stage Criteria: Land a job in your related field. The designation be anything, be much lower -but must be taken. !-Remember: Ppl will start knowing us in our field & thus professional growth is imminent. !-Job Search: Full-fledged 'job hunting'. This hunting now is in our choice occupation. !-Timeframe: 6-12 months. Friends, hereafter we will most likely, be in our selected field of work. And we'll be aware of the job market within our profession. Hereon, we'll know what to look for & where to look for. Thus, can apply for jobs smartly & keep growing satisfactorily. It is expected that after a yr at Canada, we should be able to establish ourselves nicely. Be professionally motivated and quite possibly grow well into our Canadian settlement process. Job hunting, obviously will continue until we are self-satisfied. But man... we have arrived... & arrived well ! In a couple of yrs we'll be sailing in our Original Position, that we left in our homeland. And remember, we'd be still earning better than before, even if the routine costs are higher in Canada. Our margins will be much higher too. Unless we really goof-up, in 2-3 yrs time we'll be calling the shots. A thing to remember is that, since our 2nd stage, we should start developing our skills, by way of gaining qualifications/certifications to enhance our selected profession. As most occupations like IT, Accounts, Engineering etc. will not get us a job of that field, unless we have a Canadian Recognized Certificate. The only exception is of Doctors, who might face tremendous difficulty due to the 4 yrs. requirement of Canadian Medical studies. The above 3 phases is also important to gain a Canadian Experience. Something we cannot do without if we want to succeed in our professions. The previous jobs can be anything, but when we try to apply for a job in our field the employers will always ask/look for a Canadian Experience. They wouldn't bother what we did, but will want an "employer's reference". This is to see our employability & people management skills. And we can't blame them as well, 'coz they need to doubly ensure that who they are employing is of 'good standing', as they have no clue of our occupations/designations in our homeland. It reminds me to advice, to do good in those previous Canadian jobs. 'Coz, we'll need those employer's references, whether in writing (best to take) or telephonically by the next employer. Plz note that in some cases the 1st & 2nd stages may be interlinked. Some may get promoted within the 1st stage itself & thus avoid/require a seperate 2nd stage. While there are also many situations/actual cases where some PRs have settled-down well in their Tertiary Occupations itself. There is this case of an Electrical Engineer, who carried-on with his Warehouse Supervisor's job and settled down as businessman of 'Custom Bonded Warehouses' forever. There are scores of other examples. I hope the foregoing shall lead to a proper understanding of our job-worth, vis-a-vis our aspirations in Canada. And help us to get hold of ourselves in a timeframe wise & market scenario wise assimilation of what, when and how to settle ourselves in this new found homeland. [I have deliberately avoided the Credit History & House Building scenarios, 'coz this post is directed to job market only]. Thanks & all the best to everyone ! Capt. Stan Dutta (Member: Canadian Society of Industrial Security)
	When God is in it, there is no limit. So it's not over until God says so.