Dicision made

Hello,

S_A_L wrote: . . . I am seeking your further thoughts regarding my case discussed above. I am clearly a non routine applicant as I was issued with RQ and finger print (mentioned above). Last almost a month, my ecas status has been changed from "in process" to "decision made". I have called the call centre to have more information, but unfortunately they have no infomation. I spoke to 3 people in call centre in 3 different days. The answers are not similar. They cant give any information. All have said that I have to wait for the letter from CIC. In responsding to my question regarding the time will CIC take to inform me the decison, I have received different answers from different agents. One person said it will take 6 months from the day of citizenship test. Others said according to processing time, in my case up to 36 months. I am really confused. I will appreciate your thoughts around: (1) What does it mean by "decision made"for a non routine application? (2) How long CIC may take to send me a letter? (3) Anyone has similar experience? (4) Any suggestion for me?

Wait to see what the next communication states.

With emphasis: as noted by computergeek: wait.

As noted by canuck25, you can apply for and obtain a copy of your records (a copy of a query-generated report from GCMS which is a limited output of information in specified fields) through the ATIP process, or a more extensive copy of records by submitting a customized ATIP request.

The extent of your presence in Canada is a huge hurdle. But canuck25 is wrong in saying

canuck25 wrote: KOO no longer applies.

At least generally. Citizenship Judges, even Citizenship Officers, not only may continue to apply Koo, but there are fairly clear indications that Koo is still being applied.

Koo can only be applied to pre-June 11, 2015 applications. And it is apparent that it is not at all routinely applied, but rather appears to be rarely applied only in very limited, extraordinary circumstances.

As noted before, the extent of your shortfall (more than four hundred days short of the 1095 days actual physical presence threshold) makes it most likely that you will ultimately be denied, whether that happens sooner or later. Hard to see a path to success with this application. That is, it is highly unlikely that Koo will be applied in your case even though Koo may still be applied to other cases.

MTF wrote: I am in the same boat. I applied for the citizenship with 955 physical presence days in Canada. I have been in Canada from 2008 with study and work permit and I got my PR on Jan 2013. I had 5 months assignment from my employer to work in US in 2014. during that period I was paid by my employer in Canada and kept all my ties in Canada ( my husband stayed in Canada during my assignment). I passed the citizenship test almost one month ago and the officer told me that she has to look into my documents and she might send my case to the judge. my ecase changed to the Decision Made 5 days after my test. I still didn't receive any letter from them and I don't have any idea what does this mean?

You may have somewhat better odds than S_A_L, but not by much.

As noted, contrary to the statement that Koo no longer applies, CIC and Citizenship Judges may assess residency for pre-June 11, 2015 applicants using the Koo criteria. There are indications they are in fact still applying Koo sometimes, rarely, in extraordinary circumstances, but nonetheless sometimes.

But, 140 days shortfall is a relatively big shortfall. And your residency calculation clearly depends on credit for time in Canada prior to becoming a PR. The combination of even a relatively small shortfall and relying on pre-PR credit appears to never (or at least not in recent history) have been a good case, let alone the impact of a large shortfall such as there is in your case. (Only confirmed case in which CJ approved an applicant with shortfall relying on pre-PR credit was overruled by the Federal Court; I have seen, in many years, only one non-confirmed anecdotal report of such a case resulting in actual citizenship, and that case involved a rather small shortfall. There are many reasons, explained in multiple topics, why the combination of a shortfall plus pre-PR credit is simply not at all a good case.)

Probably worth riding the process through and seeing how it works out, if it works out. But the odds are not good; the most likely outcome is predictable: not favourable. Probably be 2017 or 2018 (after minimum four years of physical presence since the date you became a PR) before you will be eligible again.

ottawa321 wrote: My E-cas changed to "Decision Made" a month ago. I called CIC agent yesterday, he was not in a mood to check the status. however, he asked me if I got any RQ. I told him I did not receive RQ. He asked me several security questions which I answered. After few minutes he answered very angrily that you are misleading a goverhment department that you did not receive RQ. I told him that I was only asked to submit my Tax papers and not RQ. He was very upset and told me that I lied him and he is putting my file for review. then he said call us in 2017 and hanged up. Is that true? Shall I contact Call center supervisor?

Is what true?

It is unusual for the call centre representatives to display any "mood" but of course they are human.

For future reference, if during an attempt to obtain information from a call centre representative, the rep displays any emotional attitude, any "mood" at all, probably best to ease out of the contact, be polite, say thank you, and plan to make another call to pursue the question with a different representative.

Probably time to do an ATIP. A customized, more probing than the standard ATIP request, would be more likely to obtain real information about the status of your case. In the meantime, perhaps an attempt to make another telephone call to the call centre, going easy, perhaps explaining that a previous call was more confusing than informative, might disclose more about the status of things.