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Originally posted by sharawat sharawat wrote:

Processing fees ,landing fees, lawyers or consultant fees,IELTS and so on.Settlement fund when immigrant land in canada.Immigrants had to further study in canada by taking loan or paying fees either from his savings from his original country or working day and night in canada by doing ordinary jobs,which another canadian is not interested in doing it or working at lowers wages.Then he buys house,cars etc  on loan and pays for it in  his whole life.In this whole process, immigrant and his whole   generation is consumed.BUT  IT ALL BENEFITS CANADA NOBLE PRIZE MUST BE GIVEN TO ITS PLANERS.




ITS A HARD TRUE FACT IN THE PRESENT SCENARIO. BECAUSE FORGET THE PEOPLE WHO MIGRATED YEARS BEFORE. JUST ASSESS THE POSITION OF MAJORITY OF PERSONS MIGRATED IN THE LAST 5-7 YEARS. WHAT THEY HAD DONE AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING PRESENTLY.

THE PEOPLE IN THE AGE GROUP OF 40-55, THEIR AGE GONE AND GOING IN THE STRUGGLE. AVERAGE CHILDREN BETWEEN 15-25 WOULD TOO REMAIN AVERAGE.
OUTSTADING KIDS WHETHER HERE OR THERE DIFINITELY SHINES EVERYWHERE.

STILL WE ALL WERE READY TO GO AND STRUGGLE BUT ALL HOPES DASHED NOW.

ALL YOUR PLANNING FAILED MISERABLY.

WHAT WOULD BE POSITION OF IF ONE GETS VISA AFTER ANOTHER 2-3 YEARS, WHEN HE OR SHE WOULD CROSS 52-55, CHILDREN ABOVE 22 WOULD ALSO NOT BE CONSIDERED DEPENDENT.

WISE DECISION SEEMS TO WITHDRAW APPICATIONS TO GET SOME MEAGURE REFUND AMOUNT OF 40000-50000. AND PERHAPS THATS WHAT THE PRESENT IMMIGRATION POLICY WANTS.

ITS CLEAR NOW THAT SOONER OR LATER THEY WOULD BRING SOME LEGISLATIVE CHANGES TO DROP THE BAKLOG CASES AS THEY SEEMS NOT AT ALL INTERESTED TO CLEAR THE BACKLOG BARRING A FEW CASES WITH AEOS.
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Rightly said, Shoot10. Very true, very clear.
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The CIC is interested only to process now the Post July 2010 and Post 2008 applications because of the very urgent requirement of Skilled workers for the labour market with new software system and rules. During these time all the applications of  FSW such as Pre 2008, 2004 cases, etc  will be processed like  normal and slowly according to old rules and point system.
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How to expose him?

Originally posted by krisp krisp wrote:

All will depend on whether Mr. Kenney's prejudice against pre Feb 2008 applicants will change or not.

He seems to of the view that , these applicants were brought by previous Labour government and he is very much negatively preoccupied against them. Sometimes , he talks about 'backlog' and longest waiting people but only to refer to the the applicants who filed their cases after 2008 under his own implemented policies.

In a first world civilized nation , this type of policy guided by evil prejudice is considered unlawful and criminal. But Canada appears to be different. In Canada, political leaders and ministers like Kenney seem to have got a license to tell lies . Look, he is claiming , the backlog has been reduced and immigration processing time has gone down drastically. But the fact is that , the waiting time for pre Fe 2008 has been increasing all the way without a single decision for the last three years .  Kenney' s parliamentary briefings on immigration just mention cases of post 2008 fast track cases and their processing. He never brings any reference to the applicants' plight who he and only he has made to suffer the worst . So, the root cause of our problem is Mr. Kenney's policies of tomfoolery and misadventurism. 
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the only way to expose unlawful prejudice is through a court, nothing else will work or else endless wait
 
many of you may not be aware that the class action that has been citied on the previous pages resulted in landing fee reduced to about half from $900
 
those who said litigation does not work....... have  still not come back with any reason(s) therefore i conclude they have nothing to say and their views are unsubstantiated with any concrete evidence
 
it is now evident that processing has stopped for pre-feb2008 applicants and will resume in 2013, but even after there is no  promise that it will resume
 
the minister is doing a survey and the impact could be that in 2013 when the processing of pre-feb2008 will start they will again make changes to disadvantage the pre-feb2008 applicants, then what?
 
unreasonable delay is a ground for writ of mandamus, where  cic will have to explain the reason and if the reason are not justifiable the writ will be allowed
 
the other issue is even if minister can priortise applicants of post feb2008 applicants within in FSW category can he withold processing for two years of pre-feb2008
 
the remedy to the above two points ie unreasonable delay and non-processing of pre-feb 2008 applicants can only be addressed through court
 
when the minister talks of backlog his priority is post-feb2008 backlog,
pre-feb2008 is not on his agenda.
the 50% reduction that has been brough about is by way of people withdrawing and reapplying 
since that target has been achieved two years in advance the remaining pre-feb2008 applicants have been assigned to the bin and hence no processing for next two years as the target has already been met
 
although immigration is not a right, getting your application processed is your right (Ben-Musa case 2005)
 
 
 


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hi,
 
based on all these discussions, we understand  that they are some people working in some consultancies, trying to convince other members to pay some amount to forward existing cases, but one thing is here we must consider that we cant threat any country, and they have their own ruls and regulations, we must (should) honor the law, as some people said, every body gets easy money (just two weeks check) here, it is not true, every penny counts here, and earning money is not as easy as you think. pls dont waste ur time and money, i never depend on any consultancy to come to usa.
 
thanks
 
 
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Originally posted by prasad prasad wrote:

hi,
 
based on all these discussions, we understand  that they are some people working in some consultancies, 
no one is working for consultancy, we r applicants...... got it
 
trying to convince other members to pay some amount to forward existing cases
no one is trying to convince other members to pay,
but yes some people are giving opinons without valid grounds/jutification as to why litigation does not work and yes i have countered such misleading views
 
but one thing is here we must consider that we cant threat any country,
who is threatening a country dude???LOL....
you can't even differentiate between a legal remedy and what constitues a threat
use a dictionary to see what is meant by threat
 
and they have their own ruls and regulations, we must (should) honor the law,
i think you mean rules....... who is dishonouring a law by the way???
 
as some people said, every body gets easy money (just two weeks check)
i think you mean cheque... 
 
here, it is not true, every penny counts here, and earning money is not as easy as you think.
and i thought money grew on trees LOL
 
pls dont waste ur time and money,
don'nt worry about our time and money, some of us have saved since more than 7 years
 
i never depend on any consultancy to come to usa.
most of us highly qualified and applied on our own not through consultants
you may not be aware that a consultant can not litigate only lawyers can
 
thanks
you are a fast track applicant what is your personal interest against litigating?
 
ps: dude there is a spell check on the top left corner when you post a message...... this facility you did not have when taking your IELTS..... make use of it when you canWink
 
 
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Few information regarding CAIPS:

1. Awarded points were deleted except total points from the CAIPS notes for those whose interviews are waived.

2. Selection decision will not be shown in CAIPS if your interview is waived , so need not to worry if Sel dec is still 0 in your caips.


I. Information regarding points is deleted in CAIPS for applicants whose interviews are waived.

Recognizing that the CAIPS system was designed at a time where most applicants were asked for an interview, the database did not capture selection decisions for people who were not interviewed. With the new regulations, the majority of applicants are not interviewed as part of the selection process. Therefore, the information regarding selection decisions is lost in the CAIPS system. This makes it difficult to assess the impact of the selection criteria.

When the Global Case Management System (GCMS) is implemented, the system should be designed in a way that such information is kept for further analysis.

Key factors that contributed to this increase in the backlog include:

  • Litigation. The applications that underwent dual assessments after the introduction of IRPA, created delays in the application processing (the average processing time increased from 20 months under pre-IRPA  to 55 months for dual assessed applications).
  • Competing priorities and reduced visa targets. From 2002 to 2008, the minimum visa target for the FSWP decreased from about 116,000 to 67,000 visas. Applications received under the PNP, the Quebec skilled worker program and the Ministerial Instructions are given priority within the economic class, which often limits the ability to process IRPA applications received before Ministerial Instructions were introduced. Lowering the visa targets for the FSWP limits the ability of a CVOA to reduce its backlog.
  • Potential for fraud. Fraud is prevalent across the CVOAs visited, and is a major concern for visa officers. Some areas suffer from higher levels of fraud, which is at least in part evident in the level of the approval rates in different visa offices. In such cases, it may take longer to assess an application.
  • Limited access to effective tools and resources. A lack of standardised tools to aid in the assessment of language, education, and work experience makes it very difficult to achieve consistent, reliable and timely processing of applications.
  • High intake levels for applications. There was a surge in the number of applications received before IRPA came into effect in 2001, and again in 2004, when the pass mark was lowered from 75 to 67.
  • Adjusting the pass mark. While it was envisioned in the program design that the pass mark would be adjusted to manage the flow of applications received, this has not occurred since 2003. Therefore, intake of applications remained high as many applicants could qualify under the 67 points pass mark.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/evaluation/fswp/section1.asp#sub3
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i was just wondering how come they stopped working on pre-feb2008 for the next two years.
cic target was to reduce the backlog by 50% by the year 2013. the last time  i checked figures they had brought about 40% reduction. Now check below:
 
The pre-2008 federal skilled worker backlog has been reduced by 50% two years earlier than anticipated.  This means that a backlog that had reached over 640,000 people at the time these changes were made has been cut down to approximately 316,000 persons.
 
So that explains it all why no processing for next two years. We have been consigned to the bin for the next two years as the minister claims to have met his targets and he can now concentrate on clearing his mess. Every thing seems to fall in place if you analyse the above from their website.
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It is just unacceptable and unjustified. We should file a petition seeking urgent relief.
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