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canuck25
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There were a number of RQ-related posts here that had no connection to the issue of ATIP requests. In the interest of preserving them within the context of RQ-related items, they have been moved to the "RQ Discussions" topic.
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torontob
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Similar experience since last year. They are waiting exactly 30 days to respond. I also had one not receive in 45 days and then an apology from them saying they lost it.
This and the blanket RQ to everyone shows that this government wanted a big pile to run the agenda for bill C-24. They indeed created this mess and then tell people this is a broken system. |
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cool_alex
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Same here: electronic record generated on the date of receiving the request, but was withheld for 3.5 weeks before communicating. |
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torontob
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So what tools do the commons have at their disposal against bureaucrats in situations like this?
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sagafemina
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I filed an ATIP on another matter (CRA misinterpretation of their own rules). It cost me $5.
Because they are statutorily required to respond within 30 days I received not one, but two couriered letters explaining that they needed additional time and were entitled to it in certain circumstances. Total costs to taxpayers in courier fees alone about $20. Isn't CIC held to the same requirements? It doesn't sound like it from moderator's posts. (Incidentally, the final reply was totally non-responsive to the question posed. But by then I had concluded that the intelligence and educational level of respondents was not worth my time to respond.) |
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App rec'd 29 Dec 2010
Prcs 21 Nov 2011 Vic->BCIS 1 Feb 2012 Doc id, RQ issued 24 Apr 2013 60 hr, 158p, $70 RQ 23 Jun 13 ATIP 6/30: Cit grant 4 Jul 14 eCas 1st update 9/23 since Mar 13 Oath 10/14/14 |
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pmm
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Hi
The information may have been printed off CGMS,which is done when the request is received, but it still has to be reviewed by a Privacy officer before it can be released. |
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m_r_mtl
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My question might look stupid, but I ordered ATIP and it never charged the 5$ fee. Is there any free version?!
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pmm
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Hi
IF you are in Canada and requesting your own information under the privacy act, there is no charge. |
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sagafemina
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However, if you accidentally order the paid version for yourself they will happily accept your money!
(As I know, having just done so...) |
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App rec'd 29 Dec 2010
Prcs 21 Nov 2011 Vic->BCIS 1 Feb 2012 Doc id, RQ issued 24 Apr 2013 60 hr, 158p, $70 RQ 23 Jun 13 ATIP 6/30: Cit grant 4 Jul 14 eCas 1st update 9/23 since Mar 13 Oath 10/14/14 |
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sagafemina
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Now, it appears that there could be some benefit to applying for the full file, and some potential for drawbacks...
I ordered both the summary and the full file on 6/30. Summary arrived about 7/31 and didn't contain much info I didn't know. The full file arrived last week. I was VERY worried that perhaps this request had removed it from the pile of files waiting to be processed, as I was told 8 months ago that everything was in order and I was just waiting for the oath. And I believed others on this list that the full file really wasn't very helpful. However, in MY case at least it has been very helpful. Although about 5 pages were redacted, and the file was incredibly large due to my extensive RQ response, it did contain a document, CIT 0065, "Citizenship Application Review" which shows that on 7/3/14, 4 days after my online request, the file went before a judge and was approved. Who knows whether my asking somehow prompted this review, or whether it was just luck that the judge saw it before they pulled it for copying; but at any rate, I'M IN! This happened 14 mos after RQ was issued, 41 mos after application, 2 weeks after I asked my MP to inquire/intervene, and 16+ years after arrival in Canada. My advice is, if you have been in the long haul process (for example, a year since RQ), specify that you need to see only this form CIT 0065, "Citizenship Application Review", which was clearly generated on the day I was given the RQ and which contains the most crucial piece of information. My eCas file still says "in process" and doesn't even say the RQ was ever received. |
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App rec'd 29 Dec 2010
Prcs 21 Nov 2011 Vic->BCIS 1 Feb 2012 Doc id, RQ issued 24 Apr 2013 60 hr, 158p, $70 RQ 23 Jun 13 ATIP 6/30: Cit grant 4 Jul 14 eCas 1st update 9/23 since Mar 13 Oath 10/14/14 |
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