ATIP REQUESTS - Instructions and Insights

Yes that should be sufficient.

Request for help composing and making a customized request for copy of the FPAT:

A recent report indicates, for a particular applicant (not me obviously, since I have been a citizen for approaching a year already), that the FPAT has been completed. The FPAT is the long-form CJ referral for a residency case. The template or what it contains is not publicly available. However, since it is the referral, since it will go to the CJ (this is in reference to a case which appears to be headed for a CJ residency hearing) and an applicant should be entitled to a copy of everything the CJ considers, the applicant should be able to obtain a copy of this . . . and anything and everything else to be sent to the CJ for the CJ to consider.

The question is how to do a customized Access to Information request which gets past CIC's generic response, which so far as I have yet to see is merely a GCMS query-based report plus, if requested, physical files.

While I suspect that CIC will resist providing a copy of the completed FPAT, this is such important information it is almost certainly worth challenging.

But a properly made customized request is the necessary first step. So if anyone has any experience in doing this, or otherwise has insight into how to go about this, I know of at least one individual who would be grateful for the information.

Note: in the past this did not seem feasible, because it appeared there was a narrow window of time between when the referral was completed and the CJ hearing was scheduled, not enough time to make the request and get the information even if one knew when the referral was completed, let alone enough time to challenge CIC if it declined to disclose this information (which I suspect it will). In the case I am somewhat familiar with, however, a generic ATIP request response indicates that the FPAT is completed. Still no hearing has been scheduled. This seems to be a prime opportunity to make the formal written request for a copy of the specific referral in this individual's case. Of course if this individual then shares, in this or another forum, some information about the FPAT in general that would be invaluable information for many, many others who have a high risk of going to a CJ residency hearing.

Thanks sagafemina. Don't worry we all became experts on this. Thank you for your input and this what I thought. 

Hi sagafemina- Sorry it's the way around. Last month ATIP did not had the form CIT0065B022008 and the Batch Name field: Miss_Records  BUT this month ATIP has them. Does that indicate that my 2012 RQ is being reviewed or any thing??? Thank you for the input.

sunny2014 wrote: Hi,  I got my Physical file and it only has my original application and the doc.i submitted with the original application. Nothing else, not even the filled RQ application and doc.submitted with RQ. Is this what everyone gets ? There are no notes on my application.

How long ago did you return your RQ?  Is there a  notation anywhere that the RQ has been matched to the file?  If not, then either they did not receive the RQ or it has not yet been incorporated into your file.  This process can take months. 

Did you send your RQ by a traceable route or with signature required?  If not, surely hope you kept a copy.  Some people have been asked to reproduce the whole packet when presumably the original was misplaced. 

There may be lines or whole pages redacted which might explain why no notes.  They don't typically make notations on your application itself. 

Is there a form CIT0065? 

You are a fairly new member.  It may be just too early for anything to register on your file as yet.  Don't despair.  Try again in 6 months...