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Originally posted by torontob torontob wrote:

Originally posted by cool_alex cool_alex wrote:

Originally posted by canuck25 canuck25 wrote:

I wonder if CIC is purposely staggering release of processed ATIP requests. I submitted one in late March and when it did not arrive 30 days later reached out to CIC's ATIP section by email. I received a reply that indicated that the request was actually processed in week 3 following my submission, but the file was not sent out for some reason. The person replying to me said that he put in a note to have the file sent out "in the order of priority." I have since contacted CIC's ATIP line twice to inquire on the status of the file and there have been on subsequent replies - my request is now in its 7th week...

Has anyone had similar experiences with requesting electronic files?


Same here: electronic record generated on the date of receiving the request, but was withheld for 3.5 weeks before communicating.


So what tools do the commons have at their disposal against bureaucrats in situations like this?


The information may have been printed off CGMS,which is done when the request is received, but it still has to be reviewed by a Privacy officer before it can be released.
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I filed an ATIP on another matter (CRA misinterpretation of their own rules).  It cost me $5. 

Because they are statutorily required to respond within 30 days I received not one, but two couriered letters explaining that they needed additional time and were entitled to it in certain circumstances. 

Total costs to taxpayers in courier fees alone about $20. 

Isn't CIC held to the same requirements?  It doesn't sound like it from moderator's posts. 

(Incidentally, the final reply was totally non-responsive to the question posed.  But by then I had concluded that the intelligence and educational level of respondents was not worth my time to respond.)
App rec'd 29 Dec 2010
Prcs 21 Nov 2011
Vic->BCIS 1 Feb 2012
Doc id, RQ issued 24 Apr 2013
60 hr, 158p, $70 RQ 23 Jun 13
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Originally posted by cool_alex cool_alex wrote:

Originally posted by canuck25 canuck25 wrote:

I wonder if CIC is purposely staggering release of processed ATIP requests. I submitted one in late March and when it did not arrive 30 days later reached out to CIC's ATIP section by email. I received a reply that indicated that the request was actually processed in week 3 following my submission, but the file was not sent out for some reason. The person replying to me said that he put in a note to have the file sent out "in the order of priority." I have since contacted CIC's ATIP line twice to inquire on the status of the file and there have been on subsequent replies - my request is now in its 7th week...

Has anyone had similar experiences with requesting electronic files?

Same here: electronic record generated on the date of receiving the request, but was withheld for 3.5 weeks before communicating.

So what tools do the commons have at their disposal against bureaucrats in situations like this?
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Originally posted by canuck25 canuck25 wrote:

I wonder if CIC is purposely staggering release of processed ATIP requests. I submitted one in late March and when it did not arrive 30 days later reached out to CIC's ATIP section by email. I received a reply that indicated that the request was actually processed in week 3 following my submission, but the file was not sent out for some reason. The person replying to me said that he put in a note to have the file sent out "in the order of priority." I have since contacted CIC's ATIP line twice to inquire on the status of the file and there have been on subsequent replies - my request is now in its 7th week...

Has anyone had similar experiences with requesting electronic files?

Same here: electronic record generated on the date of receiving the request, but was withheld for 3.5 weeks before communicating.
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Originally posted by canuck25 canuck25 wrote:

I wonder if CIC is purposely staggering release of processed ATIP requests. I submitted one in late March and when it did not arrive 30 days later reached out to CIC's ATIP section by email. I received a reply that indicated that the request was actually processed in week 3 following my submission, but the file was not sent out for some reason. The person replying to me said that he put in a note to have the file sent out "in the order of priority." I have since contacted CIC's ATIP line twice to inquire on the status of the file and there have been on subsequent replies - my request is now in its 7th week...

Has anyone had similar experiences with requesting electronic files?

Similar experience since last year. They are waiting exactly 30 days to respond. I also had one not receive in 45 days and then an apology from them saying they lost it.

This and the blanket RQ to everyone shows that this government wanted a big pile to run the agenda for bill C-24. They indeed created this mess and then tell people this is a broken system.
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There were a number of RQ-related posts here that had no connection to the issue of ATIP requests. In the interest of preserving them within the context of RQ-related items, they have been moved to the "RQ Discussions" topic.
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I applied in June 2011, took my test in June 2012 and received RQ at test time. I passed the test, submitted an RQ response in July 2012 and have not heard anything, nor has there been any progress on the file since then based on what I could ascertain from my ATIP requests.



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Hi Canuck25,

Have you had your test yet?
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Not considering it at this point.

Edited by canuck25 - 17 May 2014 at 12:57am
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Are you thinking of filing "Mandamus"?

Originally posted by canuck25 canuck25 wrote:

Just received my electronic files requested via ATIP about 5 weeks ago. In short - no change at all on my file. It was previously reviewed in July of last year under "OB 407 triage" to see if RQ can be lifted and the decision was to leave it in the queue for assessment. For some reason they re-triaged it again in December - 6 months later - and the decision was made - again - to let it sit in the queue. Aside from that - an officer still has not been assigned to assess it. I am a 2011 applicant. Will reach my 36 months in a matter of days.
Landed: August, 2005
Applied: Feb 2010
Test: Jan 2011
RQ Received: Feb 2011
RQ Submitted: March 2011
Total Waiting Time: 52 months
Office: St-Claire
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