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supertoztoz 
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Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 111 |
 Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:09pm |
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This is exactly what i'm saying easyrider 1095 days is the exact but why sending the file exactly on the 1095 days ? why not waiting a little bit more to avoid trouble. i gave exemple before on my previous posts. Stupid exemple, i took oath last monday and they said that we have to wait 2 business days or 48 hours to apply for passport. I was tempted to go this morning which is a little bit less than 48hours to apply. To avoid problem like OH you're not on the system yet etc... i decided to wait more days to be large. If they realized that few days , weeks etc are missing on your residency calculation and you applied at 1200 days etc then you wont get any problem. If you send your application at 1095 days and you made a mistake of just 1 day then you will get an RQ The most important it's to be a permanent resident since we can work, live etc.... Already in 2009 i was able to apply for citizenship but i decided to wait almost 1 more year to be large. Now i'm not saying that you have to wait 1 more year but avoid to send your application at exactly 1095 days to avoid trouble. They dont send RQ for fun , it's accurate and i'm pretty confident about it. |
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Mary Chad
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Joined: 02 Feb 2012 Location: Mississauga Status: Offline Points: 389 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:12pm |
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@EasyRider Exactly  ...@supertoztozthis again it is not fair that we have to suffer because xyz cheated Cic....how long does it take to simply see the papers and decide if the applicant is genuine or fraud...4 years after RQ response???....none of us complaining after filing of few weeks or months... they can give RQ for sure if they have doubts, its the process time we are complaining about (after RQ response)....for me they said it will take 2+4=6 years in case of no judge hearing...why? because Cic lied in my ATIP notes...it was there mistake that they issued RQ and guess who has to suffer? |
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Mary Chad
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Joined: 02 Feb 2012 Location: Mississauga Status: Offline Points: 389 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:14pm |
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Sure i am writing to them right now.....Thank you so much.....  |
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supertoztoz
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Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 111 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:17pm |
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Please share your timeline and office. Also explain me more about the LIes on your ATIP notes
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Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 133 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:21pm |
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Thanks! I will circulate the link for you! |
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EasyRider
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Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Location: Montreal Status: Offline Points: 1512 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:24pm |
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My personal view this whole RQ thing is a joke. The same sort of a joke when monopolies tried to limit internet traffic for the whole country to 25G just because Netflix was coming to Canada and threatening uncompetitive Rogers and the rest of great Canadian communications corporations. Just a bad joke. So, CIC "broadened the net" and assume 10% get RQ's now. There are 2 major issues with that (aside from timeline and privacy/datamining nastiness): 1) from reports here these 10% getting RQ's are typical folks with typical stories (not fraudsters) for whom RQ was triggered by some vague indications. In other words, they're not so different from the other 90%-- we can see people here that have never left Canada or have an absolutely typical immigrant story. Indications are really subtle, even we here can't figure out what are triggers for RQ and if there are any guarantees ever to avoid it (seems like there's none). It links to the 2nd point, that: 2) 90% of people don't get RQ's, they still get their citizenship based just on 5-page application form, they don't get pre-test RQ. Fraud can also be discovered during an interview, but that's how system already worked before pre-test RQ. What problems are solved with this new system? In my opinion, none. RQ is given without discovering real concerns about a case (officer may have concerns after conducting an interview and examining documents), the criteria is incomprehensible and still 90% of applicants don't provide documental evidence to support their declaration. What problems are created with this new system? A lot-- (tens of) thousands of angry people in limbo, worst process in the developed world, the whole controversy, possible lawsuits. Was is really worth it? I think it's just another example of senseless and overreaching government's policy.
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supertoztoz
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Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 111 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:32pm |
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Since we understood that 10 percent of the people was getting an RQ. I would like to know how many pers has their files approved after the RQ . That will tell us way more than the other numbers. Concerning the worst process in the developped world it is also the faster resident requirement to apply for citizenship ( 3 years ) Uk and Usa it's 5 years and trust me they ask a lot of paperwork on the file even if they process them faster. So at the end of the day it's the same. No other countries gives a citizenship after 3 years none. Except if you are extremely rich then yes it's possible. These was the best exemple of the developp countries, if you go to france you're permanent resident card is for usually 10 years and you might be kicked out after the 10 years if they don't feel like extending it. That being said it's obvious that Canada has no need to give citizenship too fast but focus on getting skilled workers faster for exemple since it's important to the economy. At the end of the day the switch of permanent resident and citizen are a great new data base for political party and indeed the opposition parties which are the one that are seducing them The best exemple again it's the post right now.
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kisunja85
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Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Location: Edmonton, AB Status: Offline Points: 156 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:34pm |
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Guys, Mr. Karygiannis may not be able to help you, if you are not from Scarborough, because he is not your MP.
Writing to Mr. Lamoreux is a good idea because he is one of the opposition critics. However, NDP is the official opposition, not Liberals, and they have more weight in the parliament. So I would cc your letter to Jinny Sims, official immigration critic, as well (http://www.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/ProfileMP.aspx?Key=170673&SubSubject=1001&Language=E)
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EasyRider
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Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Location: Montreal Status: Offline Points: 1512 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:34pm |
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So maybe you know criteria and what type of applicant is guaranteed from getting it? We trying to figure it out here for months, but there's no pattern. And if there is pattern anywhere, in a lot of cases people have typical settlement stories, that's not enough to justify RQ and delay for additional 4 years in my opinion (in absence of definitive concerns about applicant and case).
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kisunja85
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Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Location: Edmonton, AB Status: Offline Points: 156 |
Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 12:41pm |
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Exactly. If you look at the risk indicators posted on this forum, you will see that some of them do not stand for fraud by themselves. Example: your ID was issued in less than 3 months. So, if I had my travel document renewed IN CANADA, through my consulate, just prior to submitting the citizenship application, would that make me a crook? Or the mere fact that my child was born outside of Canada? And how would I know that this is a problem in the first place, if it was not for on person who was kind enough to post the file requirement checklist on this forum?
There were thousands of geniune applicants caught in the limbo, just because the Sydney officers likely applied those criteria mechanically, instead of looking at the whole picture. Now the citizenship process, which is supposed to be that sweet last step in your integration, turned into a humiliating lottery.
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