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nureya
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Given this, if you are serious about permanently settling in Canada, it seems odd that you would risk a Residency Examination by applying for a new PR card when you are cutting it so close. Why not wait? Why not stay put in Canada and give yourself a margin well over 730 days and apply for the new PR card in September say? (You do not need to have a valid PR card in possession as long as you stay in Canada.)
**** You are right...but the PR processing time is 65 days as of now. If i apply in September it may get stuck and i will not be able to visit family for thanksgiving and christmas..So i thought its better to apply now, because i am clearly above 730 days .. It seems even more odd that you would risk a negative decision at a POE, potentially resulting in the issuance of a Removal Order, just to take a holiday, a ******In the passport entry from 2010 i clearly crossed 730 + days...still do u think they will send me to secondary inspection and issue a removal order....Last 2 times when i entered , no questions at all and everything went fine..Its really confusing and no one has clear cut answer... Edited by nureya - 30 Jun 2012 at 3:41pm |
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computergeek
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Ultimately, the choice is yours. People can give you advice, but no matter YOU have to live with the consequences of your choices. If you are right, you won't have any problems. If you are wrong, you can always reapply for permanent residency to Canada.
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FSW applied 6/09, denied (med inadmissible) 12/11. JR leave granted 7/12, discontinued 9/12. Spousal app PPR 9/12. Landed 13 October 2012
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nureya
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Agreed..thanks Greek.
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dpenabill
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The answers are fairly clear cut, because the obligation is clear cut, the burden of proof is clear (on you), and most of the more salient factors are clear. The answer is not definitive because there is no guarantee. And, the facts are not that clear: on one hand you are asking about whether dates of entry and exit count, suggesting that your compliance with the residency obligation is by a very narrow margin, and yet you just say "In the passport entry from 2010 i clearly crossed 730 + days." If you have definitely complied with the residency obligation and all indications are consistent with that, that you have complied with being present in Canada 730+ days within the previous five years, there is little if anything to worry about. But your queries seem to paint a picture of borderline compliance. Since you mention "Thanksgiving" as a significant holiday for visiting family, I wonder if that is in the U.S., and I wonder what nation's passport you carry. If you are a U.S. citizen and you have been regularly crossing the border showing your PR card, odds are you will continue to have few if any problems. But that is about the odds, about risks, not about guarantees. Some things to remember: Burden of proof is on the PR. Dates of entry and exit are good evidence but not conclusive; many people manage to leave or return with no stamps in the travel document they are presenting to CIC or CBSA. The technology and implementation are not perfect, so not all border crossing events are captured. In other words, there is no definitive, guaranteed complete record of every exit and entry. So what evidence of exits and entries a PR does have mostly show at least those exits and entries but whether or not CIC or CBSA suspects others as well depends on the entirety of the circumstances and the PR's history. (Your PR history seems, though it is not all that clear, to suggest you have been outside Canada more than you have been inside Canada. So if there is any doubt about how many days you have been in Canada, to some extent the probabilities lean toward an inference you were not in Canada.) If and when the question is in issue: It is not what you know, it is what you can prove. You do not absolutely need a PR card to travel abroad. If you are solidly in compliance with the PR residency obligation, you can obtain a TD (PR Travel Document) while abroad to facilitate your return to Canada. Indeed, if you are abroad in the States you do not even need to apply for a TD if you are going to drive across the border into Canada or even if you fly if you have a U.S. passport (technically even a U.S. passport carrying PR is supposed to show the PR card to board a flight to Canada from the U.S. but as a practical matter I think showing the U.S. passport gets you on the plane). Moreover, you can also apply for urgent processing of the PR card application as soon as you have actually purchased transportation for travel abroad. Of course, if they have doubts about compliance with residency obligation, that can stall the process. Finally: remember that days in Canada more than five years ago drop out of the days that count toward meeting the residency obligation. I am guessing that you spent at least several days in Canada following landing July 9, 2007, and those days are soon going to cease counting toward your time in Canada. |
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Bureaucracy is what bureaucracy does, or When in doubt, follow the instructions. Otherwise, follow the instructions.
BTW: Not an expert, not a Can. lawyer, never worked in immigration |
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nureya
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Thanks Edited by nureya - 09 Jul 2012 at 7:37pm |
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nureya
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Finally i applied for renewal today.. Thanks for all your help guys. Lets hope the best.
Nureya
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700days
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Hello,
Please reply to my following concern:
1: PR card is renewed from the date, on which we apply for renewal OR from the date, on which we receive PR card OR from the expire date of the original PR card?
2: How many months before the expiry of PR card we can send for renewal of card?
3: How much time/months it takes for renewal of PR card?
Eg:
1: Expiry Date on PR card is 30th December, 2012.
2: If one submits request for renewal of PR card on 1st August, 2012, the new PR card will be
renewed from 30th December, 2012 OR 1st August 2012 OR some other date? 3: Expiry Date on PR card is 30th December, 2012. How many months before 30th Dec, 2012, one
can send request for renewal of PR card? Thanks!
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canvis2006
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Check: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/faq/pr-card/index.asp |
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700days
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Hellp Canvis2006,
Thanks for the link. However, it does not provide answers of any of my questions. Thanks, though, for your time in reading my questions.
Again, if any one can please help and answer on following:
1: PR card is renewed from the date, on which we apply for renewal OR from the date, on which we receive PR card OR from the expire date of the original PR card? 2: How many months before the expiry of PR card we can send for renewal of card? 3: How much time/months it takes for renewal of PR card? Eg:
1: Expiry Date on PR card is 30th December, 2012. 2: If one submits request for renewal of PR card on 1st August, 2012, the new PR card will
be renewed from 30th December, 2012 OR 1st August 2012 OR some other date? 3: Expiry Date on PR card is 30th December, 2012. How many months before 30th Dec, 2012,
one can send request for renewal of PR card? Thanks! |
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jogruni
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The new PR card will be valid for 5 years from the date the new card is printed. So a date some time after the approval. It has nothing to do with the current card.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm-card.asp |
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