PR renewal procedure

richa: Lines for travel history and personal history - 20 & 21 are just 4 lines!! can't believe it... Can i include a word doc with all details and type 'ATTACHED AS SEPARATE SHEET' in the box 20 & 21?? Or should i fill the 4 lines and include the rest of the lines in a word doc...??

Best approach, I think, is to make photocopies of the page with items 20 and 21, as many as necessary, mark them clearly as continuations (along top print, boldly, clearly, something like "Page 2a of Page 2 continued" for one, then "page 2b of Page 2 continued" for the next one; I would also put my name and file number across the top as well ). Then you just fill in the boxes.

Yeah, the form is remarkably truncated in this regard. I get the impression that whoever is composing forms at CIC these days has left their thinking cap at the Pub or something.

richa: IMM5444E can be filled and printed but IMM5455 cannot be typed and printed...so we need to write by hand in form IMM5455, am I correct??

Not sure why you cannot type into the form downloaded from the website and print. Works for me (just tried it). Did you get the form from the link on this page? (This form only recently became available online; not too long ago applicants had to obtain this in hard copy from CIC.)

Photo specifications are clearly set out in Appendix B of the guide (this is link to guide), including, for example, how the photgrapher is to include the date the photograph was taken on the back. The name of the applicant goes on envelope in which the photos are to be enclosed, as stated in the Gather Documents part of the Guide. Similar instructions given for IMM 5455.

Photo specs are also here:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/pdf/5445EB-e.pdf

richa: Please try to save the file, you will understand what am trying to say...

You need to print not save. These forms are not intended to be saved except as blank forms.

I elaborate some below.

richa: IMM5455 - Yes I did download from the same link, we can type but when we save it it says ' we need to sign the form digitally... so is this correct?? Do we have to digitally sign or sign manually??'

Note, I have not used these forms other than to type in them and doing a test print. CIC has modified most of their online forms in the last two years or so, some much more recently (including the application for PR card renewal, and as I said above, IMM 5455 has only recently become available online) and I am not particularly familiar with the practical aspects of these changes. Moreover, I am not much familiar with using those forms requiring digital signatures . . . .

That said, I wonder to what extent you are carefully reading and following instructions, and reading the forms. For example, I see no box on the Supplementary Identification form (IMM 5455) for a signature, just name, DoB, Height, Eye colour, and Date of permanent residence . . . everything else on the form is for CIC. No signature.

Generally, for forms the user will print and mail, the CIC forms are intended to be used and printed in a single session, not saved with changes (even though there is software available which will allow a person to save the forms with changes, that is not, as I understand it, the way CIC intends the forms to be used); so you can type in information into the forms, print, and if necessary hand print additional information into the form after printing.

Similarly for the application itself (IMM 5444), I think you need to enter your information and print the form in a single session (make no attempt to save) and after printing you sign the completed, printed form, making the declaration as stated (and that declaration, in particular, needs to be carefully read and understood . . . remember, a material misrepresentation in submitting this form, including one by omission, is grounds for losing PR status and criminal prosecution, so be sure you understand what you are declaring). Again, additional information may be hand printed into the form after it has been printed.


Mostly, though, go through the guide and forms slowly, carefully, making sure you understand them as well as you can, and FOLLOW the INSTRUCTIONS!

IMM5444E- "Please fill out the following form. You can save data typed into this form"
=== So this form can be saved and filled and printed then it can be signed.

IMM5455 - "click 'sign' to fill out and sign the form. when you are done, you can save a copy by clicking 'done signing"
==== So as you said, it is good to fill online and print it and not save!! Since it is a simple form it is easy to type and print all at the same time.

Thanks dpenabill for your reply..this really makes sense and helped me.

For the photos, yes there is no signature. only date has to be printed at the backside of picture which is already done by the photographer!

Read the application manual!
I am not sure if ot has been recently updated, as the procedure has changed since April 2012.

But if it is still the same as last year, you do not require any supporting documents. Just the completed application form and whatever is required in the checklist!

If they are satisfied, you will most likely get the new card by mail and if they want a bit more, they will invite you for pick up and request documents for the pick up appointment. From what I read, that seems to be the current procedure.

Now they need translation of any documents not in french or english.

Edited by goal80 - 23 Aug 2012 at 2:34pm